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Before anyone calls me a pu$$ let me preface with this. I've been married for over two years and with my wife over 7. Since I've known her (we're both 42, so we're adults long before we were married) I've gotten into guns. We are originally from NYC so I was never around guns until I started shooting trap in my early 30s.
Anyway against her wishes mainly for my safety as I had suffered depression in my 20s but was and am treated and am well now, I started buying rifles and handguns and shotguns with NYC permits, obviously passing their mental health and background checks. We have since moved out west to Nevada. I own a Glock 27, SA XD9, Ruger's 10/22, Mini -14 Target Model and SR-22 pistol, Mossberg's 590a1 and 930, a Hi-Point 995TS, and a Marlin .35 Rem which was a gift from my wife at our wedding which had formerly belonged to her deceased dad.
My purchases started out slowly and my wife came around fully supportive of my new hobby for both sporting and defensive purposes, hence the gift of the .35 Rem. she is now and has been completely relaxed and not worried at all about my gun safety skills since her initial apprehension as she is aware of my safety practices and multiple training classes taken at schools like Frontsight, Thunder Ranch, and Gunsite ( all defensive pistol.)
My pistols other than the .22, and my 590a1 are all defensive guns, the others are fun plinkers and target shooters.
Now to the issue at hand. I have always wanted an AR-15, for no special reason other than to have one for fun plinking. I have no defensive purpose for it, no combat purpose for it, etc... It would just be added to my repertoire of target fun guns. Since everything that happened on Friday we debated the purpose of this gun for the casual gun owner.
I explained that there are many more powerful guns out there like the .35 Rem she gave me. She countered with the capacity issue. I explained that guns like my Hi-Point which has a 10-15 round capacity was used in Columbine where the shooter was found with I believe 30 ten round mags, so what really is the difference other than its a pistol round vs. rifle. She accepted that argument. She understands banning hi cap mags, AR's, AK's, SKS's, etc... won't stop mass killing but feels it will reduce them.
I explained data from the previous Clinton weapons ban bears no proof of that? I advised that one ban could easily lead to more.
But in the end, regardless of our debate I couldn't in all honesty provide a truly valid reason for civilian ownership of rifles which can have capacities the way these type do. Hunting guns typically are more powerful but accept less ammo in their magazines or clips. I still want an AR especially because I fear they will be banned or severely limited more so than the previous ban. I KNOW that this is one gun she will not stand for in our home no matter how much she approves of my gun ownership and responsibility I have evidenced to her over the years. This may indeed pass, but I was looking for a clearer argument to present her as to why I as a civilian should be able to own such a gun.
P.S. I explained I already own a Mini-14 although it is the much heavier target model, not exactly a weapon you want to be shooting offhand, but explained its the same .223 ammo and although I own only 5 and 10 round mags, mags can be purchased up to 30 or even 40 I believe. I also do believe if need be she'd probably not mind another regular Mini in the home, though I'd rather not have two.
I apologize for the long drawn out story and question, but felt necessary to preface it so the entire situation is understood. Thanks for any replies.
Anyway against her wishes mainly for my safety as I had suffered depression in my 20s but was and am treated and am well now, I started buying rifles and handguns and shotguns with NYC permits, obviously passing their mental health and background checks. We have since moved out west to Nevada. I own a Glock 27, SA XD9, Ruger's 10/22, Mini -14 Target Model and SR-22 pistol, Mossberg's 590a1 and 930, a Hi-Point 995TS, and a Marlin .35 Rem which was a gift from my wife at our wedding which had formerly belonged to her deceased dad.
My purchases started out slowly and my wife came around fully supportive of my new hobby for both sporting and defensive purposes, hence the gift of the .35 Rem. she is now and has been completely relaxed and not worried at all about my gun safety skills since her initial apprehension as she is aware of my safety practices and multiple training classes taken at schools like Frontsight, Thunder Ranch, and Gunsite ( all defensive pistol.)
My pistols other than the .22, and my 590a1 are all defensive guns, the others are fun plinkers and target shooters.
Now to the issue at hand. I have always wanted an AR-15, for no special reason other than to have one for fun plinking. I have no defensive purpose for it, no combat purpose for it, etc... It would just be added to my repertoire of target fun guns. Since everything that happened on Friday we debated the purpose of this gun for the casual gun owner.
I explained that there are many more powerful guns out there like the .35 Rem she gave me. She countered with the capacity issue. I explained that guns like my Hi-Point which has a 10-15 round capacity was used in Columbine where the shooter was found with I believe 30 ten round mags, so what really is the difference other than its a pistol round vs. rifle. She accepted that argument. She understands banning hi cap mags, AR's, AK's, SKS's, etc... won't stop mass killing but feels it will reduce them.
I explained data from the previous Clinton weapons ban bears no proof of that? I advised that one ban could easily lead to more.
But in the end, regardless of our debate I couldn't in all honesty provide a truly valid reason for civilian ownership of rifles which can have capacities the way these type do. Hunting guns typically are more powerful but accept less ammo in their magazines or clips. I still want an AR especially because I fear they will be banned or severely limited more so than the previous ban. I KNOW that this is one gun she will not stand for in our home no matter how much she approves of my gun ownership and responsibility I have evidenced to her over the years. This may indeed pass, but I was looking for a clearer argument to present her as to why I as a civilian should be able to own such a gun.
P.S. I explained I already own a Mini-14 although it is the much heavier target model, not exactly a weapon you want to be shooting offhand, but explained its the same .223 ammo and although I own only 5 and 10 round mags, mags can be purchased up to 30 or even 40 I believe. I also do believe if need be she'd probably not mind another regular Mini in the home, though I'd rather not have two.
I apologize for the long drawn out story and question, but felt necessary to preface it so the entire situation is understood. Thanks for any replies.
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