Can an OLL be used to build an AR "pistol"

[Spyguy]

Can an OLL, purchased either as a complete lower or just the lower frame, be used to build an AR "pistol"? Or can AR pistols only be built from 80% lowers?

[winnre]

A complete lower with stock would be a SBR if you made it into a pistol. You need to start with a bare lower with nothing else on it...at least no butt stock.

[ke6guj]

for most people, an OLL is going to be DROSed as a "long gun". It can't be DROSed as a pistol due to roster issues. The question is, can a "long gun" DROSed lower be assembled as a pistol in CA without violating CA's SBR laws. bottom line is that we don't know. Therefore, even though it might be legal to do so, the recommendation is to not do that.

your main choices are to build one from an 80% lower, buy a pistol-registered lower in a PPT purchase, or buy one already assembled.

you might even want to talk to EBR Works about buying one of his complete AR-pistols and then selling him back the upper if you don't like the upper.

[Spyguy]

for most people, an OLL is going to be DROSed as a "long gun". It can't be DROSed as a pistol due to roster issues. The question is, can a "long gun" DROSed lower be assembled as a pistol in CA without violating CA's SBR laws. bottom line is that we don't know. Therefore, even though it might be legal to do so, the recommendation is to not do that.

your main choices are to build one from an 80% lower, buy a pistol-registered lower in a PPT purchase, or buy one already assembled.

you might even want to talk to EBR Works about buying one of his complete AR-pistols and then selling him back the upper if you don't like the upper.

Thanks, that's what I thought. I was planning on doing some 80% builds anyway, but was wondering if I could get a jump start with a bare lower (not that we'll be able to find many these days).

[bohoki]

i can't get a straight answer either

a. you buy a stripped (naked from factory) lower in ca

b. drive out of state assemble it as pistol

c. return to california with your newly assembled pistol

d. submit handgun importation paperwork

in which operation was a law broken?



the rub is that (long gun) does not mean rifle it also encompasses all the other "others" such as buttstockless from the factory 12 ga firearms that do not fall under the definition of shotgun even though they are guns that fire shotshells

[tima]

i can't get a straight answer either

a. you buy a stripped (naked from factory) lower in ca

b. drive out of state assemble it as pistol

c. return to california with your newly assembled pistol

d. submit handgun importation paperwork

in which operation was a law broken?



the rub is that (long gun) does not mean rifle it also encompasses all the other "others" such as buttstockless from the factory 12 ga firearms that do not fall under the definition of shotgun even though they are guns that fire shotshells

I would like to know if this is correct? If so, it looks like I will be building a AR pistol out of one of my lowers.

[762.DEFENSE]

If you're roster exempt, ie Law Enforcement, you can simply have the lower DROS'd as a pistol.

[IrishPirate]

i thought OLL's weren't DROS'd as long guns.....i thought it was the box marked other (or something similar)

[Grumpyoldretiredcop]

i thought OLL's weren't DROS'd as long guns.....i thought it was the box marked other (or something similar)

DROS doesn't have that option, the Federal 4473 form does.

i can't get a straight answer either

a. you buy a stripped (naked from factory) lower in ca

b. drive out of state assemble it as pistol

c. return to california with your newly assembled pistol

d. submit handgun importation paperwork I don't see how one could do this without committing perjury... the firearm (lower) was purchased in CA, not imported.

in which operation was a law broken?