Precision trigger

[kingsfan8888]

Whats the difference between a Timney Trigger and a Jewell Trigger. Price says about $100.00 ?

[Gofasterdammit]

I've seen 3 Jewels go down in competition. People that run a Jewel usually carry lighter fluid in their ruck. I run Timney triggers, never had an issue and never clean them.

[ar15barrels]

Jewel is a 3 lever design and Timmy is a 2 lever design.
Jewel can be adjusted down to very low pull weights for bench rest use, but the 3 lever designs are so sensitive that a little grit can jam them up.
Two lever designs will not adjust as light on pull weight, but they are more reliable when dirt enters the picture.
Factory 700 triggers are also 2 lever designs.
The timney is just made more precisely than a factory trigger and more easily adjustable.
I only recommend jewel to bench rest shooters.
If you want to get into prone and shoot in the dirt, stay with a timney.

[kingsfan8888]

Jewel is a 3 lever design and Timmy is a 2 lever design.
Jewel can be adjusted down to very low pull weights for bench rest use, but the 3 lever designs are so sensitive that a little grit can jam them up.
Two lever designs will not adjust as light on pull weight, but they are more reliable when dirt enters the picture.
Factory 700 triggers are also 2 lever designs.
The timney is just made more precisely and more adjustable.
I only recommend jewel to bench rest shooters.
If you want to get into prone and shoot in the dirt, stay with a timney.

that makes sense

[6mmintl]

Just have to disagree that Timney's "are made more precisely", if anyone has ever looked inside a Jewel they are precise and extremely well made, I have seven, four of which have been serving me well for NM high power, long range, and tactical applications (out in the dirt and dust) the past 23 years. follow the cleaning/flushing instruction two times a year and they are good to go and repeatable.

Timneys are good triggers also but nowhere as well made or finishesd, but can be made smother and more repeatable with a good dissassembly/polishing/stoning touchup on wear surfaces, not your everyday shooters capabilities but thats what gunsmiths are for if they want to tackle it, most dont. Cost to tuneup a timney brings you close to double the original price but still cheaper (but not as precise) as a jewel.

[ar15barrels]

Just have to disagree that Timney's "are made more precisely"

That was in reference to factory two lever triggers, not jewel 3 lever triggers.
Jewel triggers are made way more precisely than timney triggers.
They have to be due to how the third lever pops over to let the trigger trip.

[HK Dave]

Anyone know if you can change just the trigger on the Timney trigger? I love the clean break but the trigger feels kind of fat.

[ar15barrels]

Anyone know if you can change just the trigger on the Timney trigger? I love the clean break but the trigger feels kind of fat.

You could take it apart and narrow it, but the width of the trigger shoe is actually what makes the trigger feel lighter even though it has a similar pull weight. When you go to a narrower trigger shoe it feels heavier on your fingertip.

[kendog4570]

The Timney 510 is a nice trigger. Worlds different from the earlier Timneys. I haven't noticed any need to stone or otherwise mess with anything to get a clean, repeatable, 1-1/2 pound break. You can even take it down further if you want to mess with spring rates, but thats pushing the limits of the design, and liability. It is a good "go to" trigger when a customer has a Rem that starting to act up.

The AMU uses Jewells for all kinds of rifle competiton, but I doubt you will see them in the sandbox. Can anyone comment on that? I have seen them used for years in NMC and Long Range/Palma competiton, sometimes in some pretty crappy conditions, wind, rain, dust, etc., but have never seen one fail because of a little grit.

The one thing that no trigger can withstand is being "adjusted" by someone that doesn't understand fully what that entails. That is usually the root cause of any failure.

[kendog4570]

Anyone know if you can change just the trigger on the Timney trigger? I love the clean break but the trigger feels kind of fat.

Call Kevin at Timney and see what he may be able to do for you.

[HK Dave]

You could take it apart and narrow it, but the width of the trigger shoe is actually what makes the trigger feel lighter even though it has a similar pull weight. When you go to a narrower trigger shoe it feels heavier on your fingertip.

Oh I had no idea. I should find a trigger weight gauge and see what it's doing... that explains why it feels like a 1 pound trigger.

[Ahhnother8]

Have never seen a Timney. Have been using Jewell's for MANY years. I wipe them off and grease them every 500+- rounds. They are VERY consistent and work great, but the 'break' is not as crisp as a Geissele. Mine have many thousands of rounds of rapid-fire and slow-fire strings on them, without failure. Like most things...you get what you pay for.

[Short Action Precision]

Anyone know if you can change just the trigger on the Timney trigger? I love the clean break but the trigger feels kind of fat.

Timney sells triggers with different trigger shoes or pads. They have a straight one as well as some of the other trigger models for other custom actions have skinnier ones. My Timneys are about half the width as the normal 510. Either call up Timney or shoot me a PM.

[6mmintl]

AR15, I stand corrected, yes Timeys are more precise then "factory 700's"

My experience also with 700 trigger's is that they can be made to be better then a stock adjusted Timney properly reworked and maintained/lubed/cleaned. Problem with most factory 700 triggers is they have never been cleaned/lubed and usually have old sticky dryed grease/rust.

Remington 700 triggers can be reworked (2-2.5lb) fairly easily/inexpensive by a good gunsmith if willing to do it, A 721 or 722 trigger is a much better trigger due to it having 1/2 the sear bearing surface, and just a good cleaning and readjustment brings it back to match (2- 2.5lb weights) consistenly.

So, many ways to get there depending on expectations (weights/action/stages) you may want.