SKS legal question

[apocalypsesrt]

Where does the line for federal 922r and California penal code 12276.1 start and stop for my SKS?
I am interested in changing my stock on my SKS to the tapco which has a "pistol grip and collapsible stock". according to 922r i will be fine provided i have no more the 10 foreign parts on the gun. But 12276.1 in California says an assault weapon has pistol grip and collapsible stock and is the devil .

I know some guys have done this and are under the influence of this being legal. But how?

The way that i read it as being legal is that my gun is an SKS with a fixed magazine. That describes it so the stock, grip, etc dont pertain? see section 12276 then read the first line of 12276.1 "notwithstanding in 12276" meaning not described above right? Im so confused.. the links are below.

Tapco t6

http://www.tapco.com/products/ak/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=179

922r

http://www.tapco.com/section922r/

12276.1

http://www.riflegear.com/t-evilfeatures.aspx

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12275.php

[Mossy Man]

comply with 922

after that, put anything you want on it for the most part as long as it still has a 10-round fixed magazine and is over 30"

[apocalypsesrt]

Thanks for the reply, Thats good word of mouth but wording or law says that and covers my butt?

[paul0660]

Thanks for the reply, Thats good word of mouth but wording or law says that and covers my butt?

There isn't any. If you still have the fixed 10 rd mag, the rest of the prohibitions do not apply to you.

Some people do worry about 922r.

[Mossy Man]

http://www.oag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/genchar2

12276.1 (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:

A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
A thumbhole stock.
A folding or telescoping stock.
A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
A flash suppressor.
A forward pistol grip.
A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.

See bolded.

You don't have a semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that can accept a detachable magazine.
You don't have a semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
You don't have a semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that is less than 30 inches.

[apocalypsesrt]

Does placing the collapsible stock and pistol grip put me in the red? Thanks for being so helpful guys. To be completely honest i was unable to get the pin out of my hand-guard to switch the the railed version so i took it to the gunsmith and he raised the red flag stating it was adding a telescoping stock and pistol grip.

I then asked him how an AR-15 is allotted to have those? He stated they have another provision for AR's? Sounds like he is confused.

[Mossy Man]

if you put a collapsible stock on your SKS, you must comply with federal 922r.

it does not alter it's CA status as a legal rifle unless it makes it's OAL <30", or if you reconfigure it to use a detachable magazine.

The guy you talked to at the LGS was misinformed.

[Mossy Man]

make sure to be in compliance with 922r. Tapco parts are very good at this in AKs. here's their take on 922r:

http://www.tapco.com/section922r/

in regards to CA compliance, try using this tool

http://calnra.com/cgi-bin/flowchart.cgi

[apocalypsesrt]

make sure to be in compliance with 922r. Tapco parts are very good at this in AKs. here's their take on 922r:

http://www.tapco.com/section922r/

in regards to CA compliance, try using this tool

http://calnra.com/cgi-bin/flowchart.cgi

Mossy your the man. Now i have the ammo to come back at this guy. Although i might just have to go to a better gunsmith either way. Anyone know of any guys that are decent in the San Diego area? I need them to do AK work as well because i am putting an AK muzzle brake so they should have the ability to thread a barrel with 14x1LH threads. I am also taking off the bayonet lug.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Unless the wood stock is broken or compromised, the SKS is a far better weapon with the original wood stock. Aftermarket stocks, rails, red dots, etc make the SKS look cheap and tacky.

[apocalypsesrt]

Unless the wood stock is broken or compromised, the SKS is a far better weapon with the original wood stock. Aftermarket stocks, rails, red dots, etc make the SKS look cheap and tacky.

My conversion is a chinese knockoff of a norinco. The stock is not in that great of condition and i have a harder time trying to shoot the weapon and be accurate. I already had the gun lying around for free from my family and so im just updating it so i can use it and feel comfortable doing so. You would be surprised how much more comfortable it is holding it with the forward grip and rear pistol grip. It was cheaper for me then building an AR and the ammo is cheaper.

[PEZHEAD265]

If you put on a collaseable stock make sure it is 30 inchs or more at the shortest point.