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  • Norcalkid
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 1971

    Rebuilding hi cap mags??

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    morfeeis
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2010
    • 7605

    there are two rules of thought around here on how to go about rebuilding mags.
    Some say that you have to keep one original part from the rebuild mag for it to be legal, i think those people are crazy and need to reread the law. The other school of thought is that, as long as you don't end up with more new magazines then you started with you're in the clear and can rebuild them in way you want.


    The base plates are not compatible on the GI and the PMAGS
    yes you can rebuild the old 20's into the 30's
    You don't have to keep the old parts around if you don't want to. i ditched a lot of mine years back.
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    • #3
      uxo2
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 4003

      Originally posted by morfeeis
      there are two rules of thought around here on how to go about rebuilding mags.

      Some say that you have to keep one original part from the rebuild mag for it to be legal,

      i think those people are crazy and need to reread the law. The other school of thought is that, as long as you don't end up with more new magazines then you started with you're in the clear and can rebuild them in way you want.


      .
      Also....IIRC

      A hi-cap is a Hi-Cap.....11 rounds or a hundred.

      20..30..60..or 100.
      I have not seen anything that says you must re-build it ito
      the same capacity.

      I am sure someone will chime in to clearify.
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      • #4
        drunktank
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2008
        • 5461

        Correct. I'd post the link to the sticky or wiki, but its there.

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        • #5
          Sniper3142
          Veteran Member
          • May 2004
          • 2579

          Originally posted by Norcalkid
          I have a bunch of old USGI style metal mags for my AR. I wanted to rebuild some of them with nice new PMAG parts(some of them don't work that great anymore). Does anyone know if the base plates are compatible? If not which parts are? Do I even have to use an old part or can I just rebuild using all new parts and keep the disassembled old mag parts on hand. Or do they have to be rebuilt to the same capacity?

          PS this would be a lot easier if I could just find the rest of my mags LOL. And yes I did a search.
          No, the base plates are not compatible; but the springs are.

          You do not have to keep any of the original parts. But make sure you do not end with more LCMs (Large Capacity Magazines) then you started with.

          Yes, you can rebuild 20 rounders into 30 rounders.
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          • #6
            Norcalkid
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 1971

            Originally posted by uxo2
            Also....IIRC

            A hi-cap is a Hi-Cap.....11 rounds or a hundred.

            20..30..60..or 100.
            I have not seen anything that says you must re-build it ito
            the same capacity.

            I am sure someone will chime in to clearify.

            Thanks for the help everyone. Might have to rebuild one into a drum.

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            • #7
              MrPlink
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Mar 2010
              • 12532

              ^ that gets iffy now
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              • #8
                Sniper3142
                Veteran Member
                • May 2004
                • 2579

                Originally posted by Norcalkid
                Thanks for the help everyone. Might have to rebuild one into a drum.
                I don't think that would pass the "smell" test.

                I don't know of any drum magazines that have any interchangeable parts with a USGI 20 or 30 round magazine.

                So there is no "logical repair, replacement, or upgrade" path between the two magazine configurations. In other words, there should be at least ONE PART that works in both magazines.

                None of the drum or box magazines I know of have any parts that would also work in a USGI LCM.
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                • #9
                  Norcalkid
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1971

                  Originally posted by Sniper3142
                  I don't think that would pass the "smell" test.

                  I don't know of any drum magazines that have any interchangeable parts with a USGI 20 or 30 round magazine.

                  So there is no "logical repair, replacement, or upgrade" path between the two magazine configurations. In other words, there should be at least ONE PART that works in both magazines.

                  None of the drum or box magazines I know of have any parts that would also work in a USGI LCM.

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                  • #10
                    Dhena81
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 4587

                    We need a standard cap mag and SPR sticky

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                    • #11
                      BigJ
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 3172

                      Just a quick point of order... please don't buy or support the political/anti 2A BS by calling them "hi" or "large" capacity. If the rifle was originally designed to hold the capacity in question, call it what it is... a "normal" or "standard" capacity magazine.

                      We are stuck with LOW capacity magazines in California. Everyone else gets to use NORMAL and STANDARD capacity magazines.

                      Just sayin.
                      Last edited by BigJ; 11-01-2012, 4:13 PM.
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                      • #12
                        luckystrike
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 4176

                        Originally posted by Sniper3142
                        I don't think that would pass the "smell" test.

                        I don't know of any drum magazines that have any interchangeable parts with a USGI 20 or 30 round magazine.

                        So there is no "logical repair, replacement, or upgrade" path between the two magazine configurations. In other words, there should be at least ONE PART that works in both magazines.

                        None of the drum or box magazines I know of have any parts that would also work in a USGI LCM.
                        Why did you quote "logical repair, replacement or upgrade"?? there should be an original part or an original part is legally required?

                        You could even repair an 11rd .40 beretta mag into a beta mag if you wanted to.
                        You don't need an original part to rebuild, what would you use? The spring? That's the main part that wearsout.

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                        • #13
                          Norcalkid
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 1971

                          Thanks for the help guys. Just ordered 8 PMAGS(+ another 8 for a buddy) and one LR308. cheaper than I thought at $10.42 each after splitting shipping.

                          Here's to shooting "standard capacity" mags in my "evil black assault rifle". California you can bite me. Of course the politicians got the last laugh with my neutered 308.

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                          • #14
                            Sniper3142
                            Veteran Member
                            • May 2004
                            • 2579

                            Originally posted by luckystrike
                            Why did you quote "logical repair, replacement or upgrade"?? there should be an original part or an original part is legally required?

                            You could even repair an 11rd .40 beretta mag into a beta mag if you wanted to.
                            You don't need an original part to rebuild, what would you use? The spring? That's the main part that wearsout.
                            I don't think you understand.

                            The reason rebuilding Large Capacity Magazines is considered legal is because you are doing just that... rebuilding one. You are not creating a brand new one, nor are you replacing a complete LCM with a totally different one. You are replacing parts of your legally owned LCM with other parts. It's okay if you end up replacing all the parts eventually.

                            But... if there are no parts in common between what you started with and what you end up with; then how did you do it?!?
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                            • #15
                              Dinosaur Jr
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 1707

                              They evolve...over time. Surely one can't be expected to keep a detailed journal on the life and times of each of my magazines?
                              Last edited by Dinosaur Jr; 11-01-2012, 9:25 PM.
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