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  • Dave07997S
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 552

    question on unregistered AW

    I was at the range the other day and saw an older gentleman..maybe in his 60s shooting an AR15A2, 30 rd. mags, no BB. So I asked him "it must be nice to have this legally here in Cali". He kind of gave me a weird look and said he hadn't been out shooting in like 15 yrs. and what was I talking about. I told him about the Cali AW ban and he said he thought it was no longer in affect. I told him the federeal ban was not in affect but the Cali ban was still in place. If he didn't register the weapon with the CA DOJ back in 2000 he's got some big juervos to take it out shooting. Turns out he was oblivious to this...what can he do in this situation? Can he sell the weapon to a FFL or does he just turn it in to the police? I told him he can get rid of the lower (how legally?) and just go with an off list lower, etc. Told him about this site and he can get all the info he needs here.

    I guess the point of my post is..how many legal, law abiding citizens don't even know that Cali still has the AW ban in place? Also, can he sell the preban AR15A2 to an FFL to get rid of it? Nice guy...but didn't have a clue..

    Dave
    Last edited by Dave07997S; 10-24-2012, 1:30 PM.
  • #2
    TheExiled
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 2933

    Unfortunately there are lots of people out there like this gentleman. Ive met a few and they all basically tell me to MYOB so I do.. not much you can do to tell an old Vietnam Vet how to neuter his gun rights that he fought for..

    Im not sure about his ability to register it now eventhough he's owned it for a long time, but Im pretty sure he could get an OLL and swap the upper over
    Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends

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    • #3
      dstone20
      Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 298

      This about sums it all up:

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      • #4
        a1c
        CGSSA Coordinator
        • Oct 2009
        • 9098

        I know of such cases as well.

        EDIT: my question was answered by the CGF Wiki with a resounding no.
        WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.

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        • #5
          Dave07997S
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 552

          That wiki sight pretty much answered it...

          I am sure he will register with this site.

          Dave

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          • #6
            Speedpower
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 2238

            How did you know that his AR15A2 does not have an OLL?

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            • #7
              skyscraper
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2011
              • 5196

              Originally posted by Speedpower
              How did you know that his AR15A2 does not have an OLL?
              Even if it was an OLL, non registered with no BB and 30 round mag is a no-no, Right?

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              • #8
                Steve G
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 1912

                Originally posted by Dave07997S
                I was at the range the other day and saw an older gentleman..maybe in his 60s shooting an AR15A2, 30 rd. mags, no BB. So I asked him "it must be nice to have this legally here in Cali". He kind of gave me a weird look and said he hadn't been out shooting in like 15 yrs. and what was I talking about. I told him about the Cali AW ban and he said he thought it was no longer in affect. I told him the federeal ban was not in affect but the Cali ban was still in place. If he didn't register the weapon with the CA DOJ back in 2000 he's got some big juervos to take it out shooting. Turns out he was oblivious to this...what can he do in this situation? Can he sell the weapon to a FFL or does he just turn it in to the police? I told him he can get rid of the lower (how legally?) and just go with an off list lower, etc. Told him about this site and he can get all the info he needs here.

                I guess the point of my post is..how many legal, law abiding citizens don't even know that Cali still has the AW ban in place? Also, can he sell the preban AR15A2 to an FFL to get rid of it? Nice guy...but didn't have a clue..

                Dave
                Wow...MYOB

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                • #9
                  21SF
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 3491

                  Originally posted by Steve G
                  Wow...MYOB
                  While I would normally agree with you, it would be said to see said gentlemen get rolled on without even knowing he was doing something illegal.
                  SA TRP Half rail, Glock 21SF, Spikes St-15, Ruger Alaskan .44, Saiga 7.62, GSSF Member
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                  Originally posted by keenkeen
                  "What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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                  • #10
                    0351USMC
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 2261

                    last year, I was at Angeles shooting range with my RAW AR-15, and some punk came up to me and said "you need to have BB with your ar-15" and I told him, O RLY?

                    IMO, old shooter was messing you with.

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                    • #11
                      Speedpower
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 2238

                      Originally posted by skyscraper
                      Even if it was an OLL, non registered with no BB and 30 round mag is a no-no, Right?
                      What if the guy is just playing dumb and he actually have a registered RAW?

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                      • #12
                        Harrison_Bergeron
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1974

                        Originally posted by Steve G
                        Wow...MYOB
                        I agree, I make it a point to never participate in friendly chit chat with people who share common interests.
                        "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle

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                        • #13
                          tuna quesadilla
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 5147

                          Originally posted by Speedpower
                          What if the guy is just playing dumb and he actually have a registered RAW?
                          Or OP is actually the one who has an unregistered AW and is disguising his question by phrasing it as if somebody else owns the AW.

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                          • #14
                            JamesY
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 2652

                            If it's a pre-ban, he can get some good money for it if he sells to someone in NY.

                            I agree with 0351USMC. Depending on how someone approaches me with my RAWs, I either tell them it's a RAW or play stupid. How'd you approach him?

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                            • #15
                              tuna quesadilla
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 5147

                              Originally posted by Speedpower
                              How did you know that his AR15A2 does not have an OLL?
                              Originally posted by skyscraper
                              Even if it was an OLL, non registered with no BB and 30 round mag is a no-no, Right?
                              Right, and if it actually was an AR15A2, as in that's what was rollmarked on the receiver, then it is a Colt and it is on-list.

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