Bi pod for Saiga

[1lostinspace]

Has anyone installed a bi pod on one? I have a regular type Harris.

[bwiese]

Why would you put a bipod on a non-freefloated barrel and (easily) move your point of impact 3-6 MOA?

STG58 FAL 7.62 rifles w/bipods extended and rifle resting on it can readily have point of impact move 5-6" from when bipod's retracted.

I have every confidence the Saiga would show something roughly similar.

[1lostinspace]

Why would you put a bipod on a non-freefloated barrel and (easily) move your point of impact 3-6 MOA?

STG58 FAL 7.62 rifles w/bipods extended and rifle resting on it can readily have point of impact move 5-6" from when bipod's retracted.

I have every confidence the Saiga would show something roughly similar.

I think with my reloads .223 I should shoot under 2 moa.

[jacques]

Why would you put a bipod on a non-freefloated barrel and (easily) move your point of impact 3-6 MOA?

STG58 FAL 7.62 rifles w/bipods extended and rifle resting on it can readily have point of impact move 5-6" from when bipod's retracted.

I have every confidence the Saiga would show something roughly similar.

I put a cheap bi-pod on mine for when my daughter shoots it because it is a little heavy for her and she enjoys it that way.

However, I have only shot it at the glass factory, way to busy there to do any real testing of accuracy, (one of these days I need to take a day off work, go up there really early and have the place all to myself), but I can hit a propane tank at about 100 yards away with every shot, using the sights only.

[69Mach1]

Check this thread out. It was easy to do.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=83681

[1lostinspace]

Check this thread out. It was easy to do.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ad.php?t=83681

cool thanks

[rksimple]

I think with my reloads .223 I should shoot under 2 moa.

I don't think thats what he was saying. Even at 2 moa, that 2 moa group will shift depending on if the bipod is being utilized. Using the bipod, you poi will shift up.

[simonov]

Why would you put a bipod on a non-freefloated barrel and (easily) move your point of impact 3-6 MOA?

Why would mounting a bipod at virtually the same location where your support hand would be have any deleterious effect on accuracy?



One of the advantages of the Saiga over the AK is that nice "sporting" forend that allows you to properly mount a bipod. I try to mount a bipod on all my rifles, except for milsurps. If nothing else, it keeps the rifles out of the dirt.

With my Saiga, I got rid of the cheesy Rooskie forward sling swivel stud and replaced it with an Uncle Mike's machine sling swivel stud, securing it with a nut on the inside of the forend (I always prefer using machine studs with nuts rather than those flimsy wood screw arrangements; must be the machinist in me). It accepts a Harris bipod so elegantly I am convinced the Rooskies had the Harris in mind when they designed the forend.

This is also the proper way to mount a bipod on an SKS. The Butler Creek stocks have a plug of extra material in them perfect for drilling out and fitting with a sling swivel stud:



All these rifles shoot wonderfully (and comfortably!) with their bipods.

[1lostinspace]

I heard that if you install a bi pod on a Saiga your head would fly right off

[Full Clip]

Why would mounting a bipod at virtually the same location where your support hand would be have any deleterious effect on accuracy?

I'd like to know as well. That may make sense with a cheap barrel-mounted bipod, but seems illogical with this setup.

BTW, nice rifles.

[rksimple]

I'd like to know as well. That may make sense with a cheap barrel-mounted bipod, but seems illogical with this setup.

BTW, nice rifles.

It will happen, albeit to a lesser extent. The accuracy capability of the rifle may mask any signs of POI shift. When you're used to shooting .5 MOA groups, and have a rifle that can do it, these shifts are more readily observed.

[simonov]

It will happen, albeit to a lesser extent.

That's not an explanation. I mount my bipods exactly where the rifle would be sitting on a rest. Now the Calguns Canon is that using a rest hurts your accuracy? I think a claim like that requires an explanation.

The accuracy capability of the rifle may mask any signs of POI shift. When you're used to shooting .5 MOA groups, and have a rifle that can do it, these shifts are more readily observed.

Dude, this thread is about Saigas (and SKSes).

Though I would like to see some examples of the rifles you have in mind. My entire life I have found that using my Springfield M1903 (easily sub-MOA capable) with a rest helped me shoot more accurately. Now I am hearing it was all an illusion!

[bwiese]

It will happen, albeit to a lesser extent. The accuracy capability of the rifle may mask any signs of POI shift. When you're used to shooting .5 MOA groups, and have a rifle that can do it, these shifts are more readily observed.

Correct.

When I shoot my non-freefloated rifles froma bench I rest the rifle in the rest back where the bbl is affixed to the receiver. Much less of an issue then.

Using std bulk ball ammo in a STG58 FAL, you can get 4-6 MOA POI movement with the bipod extended vs. retracted and the rifle rested toward the rear (not front) of the bbl.

[bwiese]

That's not an explanation. I mount my bipods exactly where the rifle would be sitting on a rest. Now the Calguns Canon is that using a rest hurts your accuracy? I think a claim like that requires an explanation.

Nobody caring about reducing POI shift rests their bbl out in front where it can flex more. If you've got a bag rest, rest the rifle where the bbl meets the receiver instead of where the bipod might attach.