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  • mccolm323
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 24

    AR-9mm Question?

    Alright guys/gals,

    I am building a AR-9mm and I might have a dummy question. The lower parts kit, same as a standard lower parts kit on a ar-15? I know that the upper/bolt/mag well insert are different. Thanks everyone!
    HK Full Size USP 9mm, HK USC .45acp, HK USP Elite .45ACP, Springfield 1911 .45ACP, S&W 6" 696-7 .357MAG, Rock River Tactical AR 556, Spikes Tactical AR .223 Custom, Custom Tactical SKS
  • #2
    chillincody
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 2675

    im not 100% but how I understand it . the standard ar 15 hammer doesnt work with a 9mm BCG but if you buy a ramped 9mm bolt then it will work with the ar 15 hammer also you need a 9mm buffer but other than that you should be GTG
    Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

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    • #3
      bonesurf
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 2079

      Ok if you use a cmmg ramped bolt then you can use a regular hammer. If you use the RRA bolt you will need one of those .22lr/9mm hammers. Also due to the blow back nature of function the anti rotation (kns) kits are recommended though I'm honestly not exactly certain I understand that one. Finally buffer changes are recommended.


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      • #4
        Intimid8tor
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2007
        • 6607

        Originally posted by bonesurf
        Ok if you use a cmmg ramped bolt then you can use a regular hammer. If you use the RRA bolt you will need one of those .22lr/9mm bolts. Also due to the blow back nature of function the anti rotation (kns) kits are recommended though I'm honestly not exactly certain I understand that one. Finally buffer changes are recommended.


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        Exactly right. Last I checked, cheaper than dirt had the best price on the CMMG bolt.

        The 9mm system, especially with the RRA bolt seems to be much harder on the pins and holes. Has to do with how quick the hammer is reset due to no ramping. I think it is just a little extra insurance.
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        • #5
          JPurp
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          • Aug 2008
          • 439

          Standard lower parts kits if you are using a magwell adapter. The upper is the same though you can go with a slabside upper, the forward assist and shell deflector aren't used or 9mm. The ejection port cover is different.

          I have two 9MM ARs and I highly recommend the CMMG ramped bolt. As was said before the ramped bolt and standard AR hammer are less stress on your pins.

          I also have one of the CMMG MK-9 dedicated lowers and I like the fit and function better than the mag well adapters. There is one issue to note the bolt catch doesn't consistently get tripped with C Products magazine plastic followers.

          -JP
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          • #6
            NSR500
            Banned
            • Aug 2006
            • 19530

            Ramped bolt and KNS anti-rotation pins FTW.

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            • #7
              mccolm323
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 24

              Thanks everyone for the info, as always very helpful!
              HK Full Size USP 9mm, HK USC .45acp, HK USP Elite .45ACP, Springfield 1911 .45ACP, S&W 6" 696-7 .357MAG, Rock River Tactical AR 556, Spikes Tactical AR .223 Custom, Custom Tactical SKS

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              • #8
                bonesurf
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 2079

                Don't forget the 9mm buffer. Fwiw with my carbine length buffer tube I couldn't get a spikes 9mm buffer to work. My bolt wouldn't rack. RRA bolt and some quarters in back to limit excursion works though. They say that if you don't limit bolt excursion you get extractor (?) breakage.
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                • #9
                  ch3ck5ix
                  Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 214

                  Originally posted by bonesurf
                  Don't forget the 9mm buffer. Fwiw with my carbine length buffer tube I couldn't get a spikes 9mm buffer to work. My bolt wouldn't rack. RRA bolt and some quarters in back to limit excursion works though. They say that if you don't limit bolt excursion you get extractor (?) breakage.
                  Heavy buffer and spacer (or ~2 bucks worth of quarters) to reduce the bolt inertia and reduce the bolt travel as insurance to prevent breakage of bolt catch, hammer/trigger pins and/or egging out the hammer/trigger pin holes.

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                  • #10
                    CHS
                    Moderator Emeritus
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 11338

                    Originally posted by NSR500
                    Ramped bolt and KNS anti-rotation pins FTW.
                    If you have a ramped bolt carrier then you don't need the KNS pins as the ramped carrier fixes the original problem.
                    Please read the Calguns Wiki
                    Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                    --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                    • #11
                      CHS
                      Moderator Emeritus
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 11338

                      Originally posted by bonesurf
                      They say that if you don't limit bolt excursion you get extractor (?) breakage.
                      It's the bolt-stop that breaks, actually.
                      Please read the Calguns Wiki
                      Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                      --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                      • #12
                        NSR500
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 19530

                        The ramped bolt might not need it, but I like the insurance of the KNS pins.

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                        • #13
                          mccolm323
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 24

                          Awesome! Thanks
                          HK Full Size USP 9mm, HK USC .45acp, HK USP Elite .45ACP, Springfield 1911 .45ACP, S&W 6" 696-7 .357MAG, Rock River Tactical AR 556, Spikes Tactical AR .223 Custom, Custom Tactical SKS

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                          • #14
                            foOlio
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 16

                            I went with a 9mm-q buffer.

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                            • #15
                              johnny1290
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 1596

                              I'd love to see the specs on your build if you have time. I'd love to have one of these, they're just so darn pricey.

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