simple question, please give simple anwser...

[6172crew]

Reconsnake: you sould probably chill with the personal attacks.

That is a good idea.

[killshot44]

Smart aleck comment removed, do NOT repeat it.

K.

[Reconsnake]

There is so much wrong with this post, trying to separate the wheat from the chaff made my head hurt.

Still waiting for anyone to debate me on the scientific facts, not someone who shot 7 rounds through two different barrels, citing "real world experience".

First you say:

One obvious error is not knowing what mechanical accuracy is and how it's affected by drag.

Then you say:

Drag has no affect on the mechanical accuracy of a rifle.

Contradicting? I am not disputing how accuracy of a barrel plays into the eventual accuracy of the rifle, the entire post was disputing one(more than one?) individual's opinion that mass played zero part in accuracy. Never in this discussion, was accuracy of a rifle or barrel in question, the question was to which bullet would be more accurate out of the OP's setup, to which incorrect information was stated, and then was corrected.

While bullet mass is part of the BC formula, it only tells a small part of the story. A 30 caliber 220gr round nosed bullet has a lower ballistic coefficient than a 30 caliber VLD of the same mass. Also, the BC of a bullet can change as velocity and altitude density change.

Never once did I state that mass was the only part of the story of accuracy. But you did reinforce my point.

Even with the slipperiest of bullets, the ability of the shooter to read wind is very important. The greater the distance and the greater the time in flight, the more important this skill is

This is the point. A bullet with a higher ballistic coeifficient versus a lower, at the same distance, the latter will be in the air longer, thus needing a better prediction of wind speed and direction. The higher BC bullet, fired out of nearly any barrel, regardless of what you call "mechanical accuracy of a rifle", will not be in the air as long as the bullet with the lower BC, having less effect of the wind on its trajectory, period.

This is probably a excercise in futility; I am unwilling to accept what some here believe to be truth, unless someone can debate me with some hard evidence or fact, and the other side is just as unwilling to accept what I belive to be truth, based on what I have learned about basic physics. You are welcome to play through.

[MistWolf]

Still waiting for anyone to debate me on the scientific facts, not someone who shot 7 rounds through two different barrels, citing "real world experience"...rant rant rant...

I was going to explain what mechanical accuracy means and why drag and bullet mass have no affect on it, but I figure you'll just go on another tirade. From here on out, you're on your own, kid.

If anyone else is in the dark on the subject and has questions, feel free to ask and I'll try to answer to the best of my abilities. I may not have learned much in the time it took to fire those 7 rounds through two barrels, but I'll share what little I found out

[Ahhnother8]

So...what is the final answer?

[MistWolf]

So...what is the final answer?

As I said in an earlier post, the practical accuracy between the two weights will be too small to worry about. However, every barrel is a law unto itself and it's possible, however unlikely, that your barrel is the exception. You won't know until you actually shoot your rifle