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  • #16
    jamesob
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 4821

    Originally posted by arizonamaddy
    I'm sure this has been asked several times, but here we go again. I am moving to Cali from AZ soon and am the proud owner of a bushmaster Varminter. I'm sure this is classified as an assault rifle and wanted to know if changing to the U-15 stock would make me legal. This I'm guessing will let me keep the removable mag. I love this gun and don't want to have to leave it behind. Please help.
    Thanks
    Arizonamaddy
    i have a question for you. why on earth are you moving here? i looked at a house in arizona back in june. yeah i know june, but the wife wanted to see how hot i got there.

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    • #17
      aplinker
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2007
      • 16762

      Two issues in there... We'll assume (for the sake of not dealing with SBRs) we're only in CA and we're dealing with "normal" firearms.

      You can NEVER put a barrel shorter than 16" or have an OAL less than 30" with a semiautomatic centerfire rifle. That's a given.

      Now, in order to be able to have it in a pistol configuration, it could never have been sold as a rifle. Anything that is classified as a rifle must never break those rules above.

      However, if you bought a VIRGIN receiver and bought it as a pistol, it is then a pistol receiver. With a pistol you can ABSOLUTELY have a stock, IF you maintain the 16" barrel and 30" OAL (and assuming you don't break any assault weapons issues).

      You could also have that pistol in a pistol configuration (short being an AW).

      You can switch back and forth at will. Having it registered as a pistol allows you to have it in the pistol configuration. You can ONLY do this on a receiver that was purchased as a pistol.

      My suggestion was, since he has to buy the receiver anyways, buy it as a pistol (might be $25 more), as this will allow him more options in the future.

      Hope that's clear now.



      Originally posted by JagerTroop
      This isn't the 'end all be all' of proof, just couldn't stand to look anymore.

      I was under the impression that if you had a virgin lower, or "pistol" lower, you could never assemble it as a rifle(if you wanted to make it a pistol someday). I know I've read it here before, several times...pistol to rifle = OK, rifle to pistol = chrome bracelets.

      If I'm wrong, by all means, let me know. But I'm pretty darn sure on this one

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      • #18
        JagerTroop
        Veteran Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 3922

        Originally posted by uclaplinker
        Hope that's clear now.
        Crystal

        I just want to be 1000% sure when it comes to things like this. I'd rather beat this to death, than be phoning in my posts, 3rd person from a California Correctional Facility
        -A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.*
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        Originally posted by ar15barrels
        And yes, this IS gun school.
        Welcome to class.
        Originally posted by bdsmchs
        There is life outside of Calguns
        Originally posted by IrishPirate
        stop looking to the internet to tell you everything you should do.....sack up and just do what you want!!!!!

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