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  • filthy phil
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    • Sep 2012
    • 366

    best deal on noveske recon bbl ?

    Should I go $450 or save the $ and get a dd or other premium bbl?
    Last edited by filthy phil; 10-14-2012, 4:34 PM.
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    Enfield47
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    • Sep 2012
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    I would save the $$ and get a DD or FN barrel.

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    • #3
      CifaldiPrecision
      Vendor/Retailer
      • Aug 2012
      • 1806

      The Rainer barrels are very nice. May want to check those out.


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        MXRider
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        • Feb 2010
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        Isn't the Noveske just a FNH barrel anyway?

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          filthy phil
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          • Sep 2012
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          Originally posted by MXRider
          Isn't the Noveske just a FNH barrel anyway?

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          The recon is polyganol rifled. What about the fnh?
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            CifaldiPrecision
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            • Aug 2012
            • 1806

            My understanding is noveskes are PAC nor barrels made to noveskes specs and they do the finishing touches on them.


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              filthy phil
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              • Sep 2012
              • 366

              Was going for all noveske on this. I guess it would be lame to skimp on the most important part
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              • #8
                calishine
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 562

                Get what you want, the Noveske. Don't settle. You'll be happpy you did.

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                • #9
                  rogtac
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                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1275

                  Originally posted by MXRider
                  Isn't the Noveske just a FNH barrel anyway?

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                  Recon and CHF barrels are very different.
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                    John Browning
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                    • May 2006
                    • 8088

                    Pac Nor makes Noveskes stainless barrels.

                    FN makes their CM barrels.

                    What do you plan to do with the barrel? What do you want to get out of it?

                    For $450 dollars, there are more accurate barrels and barrels that will shoot the same and last as long at almost half the price. Satern makes a much more accurate barrel at that price. If you want something that will last, why not just get an FN CM barrel and put the money towards something else? I'd be surprised if anyone could tell the difference between a DD, FN, and BCM chrome moly barrel and the Noveske if all marks were removed.
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                    eh why bring logic into this, that makes too much sense... besides when you have bested a fool, you have accomplished nothing and he is a fool.

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                    • #11
                      21SF
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                      • Oct 2010
                      • 3491

                      Originally posted by scobun
                      Pac Nor makes Noveskes stainless barrels.

                      FN makes their CM barrels.

                      What do you plan to do with the barrel? What do you want to get out of it?

                      For $450 dollars, there are more accurate barrels and barrels that will shoot the same and last as long at almost half the price. Satern makes a much more accurate barrel at that price. If you want something that will last, why not just get an FN CM barrel and put the money towards something else? I'd be surprised if anyone could tell the difference between a DD, FN, and BCM chrome moly barrel and the Noveske if all marks were removed.
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                        John Browning
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                        • May 2006
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                        Originally posted by 21SF
                        Because it doesn't say noveski on it? Duh!! Lol sarcasm***
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                        eh why bring logic into this, that makes too much sense... besides when you have bested a fool, you have accomplished nothing and he is a fool.

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                        • #13
                          CifaldiPrecision
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                          • Aug 2012
                          • 1806

                          I would recommend a good melonite treated barrel like an AR15Performance barrel over a chrome lined barrel.


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                            bwiese
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                            Originally posted by IronWorksTactical
                            I would recommend a good melonite treated barrel like an AR15Performance barrel over a chrome lined barrel.


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                            Why do you want to surrender barrel longevity?

                            Unlined barrels start deviating after a few thousand rounds.

                            Melonite is just a coating that wears - it hain't heavy chroming.

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                              CifaldiPrecision
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                              • Aug 2012
                              • 1806

                              Melonite is a treatment not a coating. Chrome lining is a coating which does affect accuracy but creates more longevity. Melonite adds much longer barrel life while not affecting the original accuracy of the barrel.

                              Here are some of the best discussing melonite treating. Worth the read.
                              http://forum.accurateshooter.com/index.php?topic=3795644.0

                              The below are not my words this is a quote from someone who has been using melonite for awhile now. Someone I respect highly in the industry.

                              "Most of those that have really shot one can see the performance pretty quick. I was a barrel snob that thought cut rifled stainless barrels were the only barrels worth having for about 20 years.
                              In 07 when I started the business up again after almost 30 years I found out that Krieger, Rock, Pac Nor, Midway and Brunos could not supply me with enough barrels to meet the demand. Then it was custom 308 barrels more than anything. In the quest to find a company that could supply enough good barrels I found out some less expensive barrels would shoot good when designed well. Actually I think a big company can afford the newest high tech deep hole drilling machines made and a straight hole means more than a lapped crooked bore. 10 years ago I would have bet $1000 there was no way in the world an ER SHaw barrel would consistently shoot 1/2" groups. There is a 16" 556 barrel stamped ARP down near the barrel extension out there floating around that is as accurate as most Kriegers I have ever had. I think it was in the batch of truck guns I sold a while back. Anyway the melonite makes the barrel last longer without robbing the accuracy like chrome does. It is slicker so they do not copper foul as much. I don't think the exterior will ever rust.
                              The first batch scared the crap out of me. I run a patch through and headed to the range, shot about 20 rounds and then picked up the cases. Almost every single case had the primer blown out. That is when I found out the bore must be lapped clean to remove the residue from the bore. They don't need to be lapped slick like lapping a match barrel but just enough to remove the residue. After that and the day I shot 820 rounds in an hour testing a piston system I was sold on melonite. The stainless barrel I ran the same test with was toast, firecracked and eroded but the melonite treated barrel still looked new.
                              The benchrest crowd has already found out melonite does not hurt accuracy and makes the barrels last longer. They expect much better accuracy than the sniper guys or the sniper wannabes on the hide do. I've been hearing Rock barrels are the best for longer than I can remember, I know better because I have shot other barrels. It will take time for others to try it and see for themselves."

                              A little more from the history channel. The process of meloniting.
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QjbOZAx2mw&sns=em

                              Both my rifles I use always are now using melonite barrels.




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