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  • #16
    Bug Guy
    Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 218

    I have both scar 16&17 and love them both......

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    • #17
      thegrayham
      Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 364

      Originally posted by mrvash
      I've been through three AR's, sold them all, and one AK, which I also sold.
      Just out of curiosity, what is it about the AR's that you didn't like?
      THEGRAYHAM

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      • #18
        mrvash
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 2306

        Originally posted by thegrayham
        Just out of curiosity, what is it about the AR's that you didn't like?
        I love the AR platform, and I will eventually end up with another one. One thing I do not like about the AR is the lack of ambidextrous controls, but that isn't really a deal breaker for me since there are plenty of third party vendors catering to that market.

        Truth be told, it's not that I didn't like the AR platform, it's just that I'm wanting something new, but still in semi-auto 5.56 that accepts M4/M16/AR magazines.

        Thanks guys, I'm leaning towards the SCAR versus the ACR. I'm planning on buying it from Riflegear, are the modifications they're going to make on the rifle to make it CA compliant reversible?
        Last edited by mrvash; 10-07-2012, 8:04 PM.

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        • #19
          MXRider
          Banned
          • Feb 2010
          • 2927

          The Scar is a wonderful rifle. It will serve you well, especially if you ever leave this state and decide to SBR and suppress it.

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          • #20
            cabinetguy
            Release the Cabinets!
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Sep 2010
            • 12659

            I would go scar, acr has too much bad press

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            • #21
              cfusionpm
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 2926

              Originally posted by mrvash
              I love the AR platform, and I will eventually end up with another one. One thing I do not like about the AR is the lack of ambidextrous controls, but that isn't really a deal breaker for me since there are plenty of third party vendors catering to that market.

              Truth be told, it's not that I didn't like the AR platform, it's just that I'm wanting something new, but still in semi-auto 5.56 that accepts M4/M16/AR magazines.

              Thanks guys, I'm leaning towards the SCAR versus the ACR. I'm planning on buying it from Riflegear, are the modifications they're going to make on the rifle to make it CA compliant reversible?
              Are you left handed or have left-handed friends? I only ask because to me as a right-handed shooter, a gun's ambidexterity is an extremely low priority.

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              • #22
                mrvash
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 2306

                Originally posted by cfusionpm
                Are you left handed or have left-handed friends? I only ask because to me as a right-handed shooter, a gun's ambidexterity is an extremely low priority.
                I'm a lefty and I do have some left-handed friends that shoot.

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                • #23
                  cfusionpm
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 2926

                  Well that makes perfect sense then!

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                  • #24
                    Rombot
                    Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 243

                    Originally posted by MXRider
                    Really? Why waste your money on that piece of ****? They have numerous, well documented problems along with a hefty price tag and weight. If Remington ever pulls its head out of its *** and releases the military version with a 16" barrel and semi automatic, they would have a hit and I would change my mind.

                    The FNH Scar 16 is superior in every possible category to the ACR, and is a truly viable alternative to the AR platform.

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                    I own the SCAR 17 and 16 as well as an ACR. I've put a decent number of rounds through all of them and I just feel the handling characteristics of the ACR are much much better than the SCAR.

                    The controls on the ACR are all within fingers reach. Releasing the bolt on the SCAR requires you remove a hand to slap the bolt release or grabbing the charging handle itself. Just one example from me.

                    A lot of crap has been slung at the ACR, but it doesn't change my opinion on it.
                    That's my personal preference.

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                    • #25
                      MXRider
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 2927

                      So the method of operation on the Scar is similar to the AR platform, I already new that (minus the charging handle). How about the other issues I addressed regarding the ACR. Also how many rounds do you have through each platform?

                      Also, thanks for weighing in. Not many have experience with both platforms.

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                      • #26
                        Rombot
                        Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 243

                        Originally posted by MXRider
                        Quality control issues, broken forearms, 1/9 non Chrome lined barrel, 9 pound weight empty, no aftermarket parts support, no factory parts support, etc, etc.

                        The ACR is an inferior, overpriced weapon, and yes I have shot one as well as the Scar. So I'm not talking out my ***.

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                        Quality control has been stepped up on Bushmaster's part. I've read of some ACR owners sending in their rifles after warranty was up to have their rifle returned repaired and returned in a decent amount of time, something like 3 weeks.

                        I've not read anything of broken forearms.

                        1/9 is fine w/ me as I shoot 55gr the majority of the time. It's been quite reliable for other owners to shoot up to 65gr as well. It is melonite coated which I understand to hold up really well against chrome lined.

                        The weight can be an issue to some. It is obviously the one thing I like more on the SCAR, but then again as I said, overall the ACR still has won me over.

                        There is a small aftermarket developing for the ACR. On the ACR forums a company Argonauts Reinc has developed a 6.5 bolt, ambi sling mount, currently developing a new handguard as well as a few other things. Some are developing ambi charging handles, Marvin Pitts is doing a lot of barrel work for ACRs now. He's even made his own piston support to help w/ aftermarket barrels getting cut down to 10.5".

                        If you were to call Bushmaster right now (provided you have the parts numbers in hand, posted on ACRforum.com) you can order all the necessary barrel parts to make your own ACR barrel set. This goes hand in hand w/ the support from Marvin Pitts.

                        As far as pricing, the ACR has come to a price point on par if not cheaper than a SCAR 16. Deals can definitely be had if found in the right places.

                        For my round counts through each rifle, I'm into the 1500+ side of things. The SCAR a few hundred less probably lol.

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                        • #27
                          jpm804
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 1609

                          I would take the scar, but that is just my personal preference.

                          I own both the ACR and SCAR.. they both are good rifles but I enjoy the weight of the SCAR much better and surpised how light the recoil ( probably mostly the compensator) is on the scar. I liked the scar so much I ended up picking up its big brother the Scar 17 last week... ( if you are thinking of SCAR ... I would almost suggest get the 17 if you know you will get another 5.56 AR in the future,,, that way you can have a 5.56/ .223 and 308/7.62 rifle)

                          The ACR defintely has more weight on it and I wouldn't mind it if I could swap out parts to make it a bit lighter but there is not many options at this time. I do like how the ACR has true ambi cotrols including bolt hold/release and how you can swap out the handguard for a moe style or tri rail if wanted.

                          Each has their own pro / cons ... i would just recommend seeing if you can fire both and see which one you like because you will have people who like the ACR ( which is fine) and people who like the SCAR ( which is fine also) ... but your the one who's going to be putting the ~2K+ for the rifle so ultimately which rifle you get I better hope "you" like it.

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                          • #28
                            MrPlink
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 12532

                            Scar17, go big or go home
                            The California Moderate Centrist Militia member in exile

                            disclaimer:
                            everything I post is for arguendo and entertainment purposes only, and should not be construed to be legal advice

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                            • #29
                              451040
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 2169

                              ACR

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                              • #30
                                HKchucksta
                                Member
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 124

                                SCAR all the way! I'd get one too if it wasn't way out of my price range. I'll keep my AR for now...

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