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  • #16
    mymonkeyman
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 1049

    Originally posted by jacques
    I hear that, tried to sell mine late last year, no hope in that. But at least expensive ammo wont leave you homeless.

    Did anyone ever get to the bottom of WHY? it has gone up.
    Irrational Exuberance.

    This was driven by historically low interests rates initially creating greater affordability of bigger loans. This fueled an uptick in housing prices. Combine this with all the money that exited the stock market post 2000 Tech Stock Bubble boom, and you get idiots who believe the real estate agents' hype that housing prices would go up forever. The increase in pricing due to speculation eventually outpriced some people from affording homes (i.e. people whose credit was too poor or income too low for a 30 year mortgage on a $400k+ home), which caused the speculative and insane market to create things like ARMs (adjustable rate mortgages), and stated income loans (i.e. fraudulent "liar loans" where people or the broker mistate the buyer's income). At this point, people werent' even nearly thinking rationally about whether they could repay their loans, and banks were focused so much on competing to get more loans (to meet quarterly projections and such), that they ignored the massive downside risk. Much of it was carried along by brokers and real estate agents that only care about their % commission and don't have to personally face any of the downside risk (i.e. consequences of foreclosures). It was also carried along by bankers whose personal motivations (yearly bonuses) square only with projected profit rather than downside risk.

    Basically, everyone went crazy and stupid, and even when people realized it was crazy, they though they could jump on and jump off in time to make money without being caught.
    Last edited by mymonkeyman; 02-13-2008, 4:43 PM.
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    • #17
      jacques
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 2478

      Originally posted by mymonkeyman
      Irrational Exuberance.

      This was driven by historically low interests rates initially creating greater affordability of bigger loans. This fueled an uptick in housing prices. Combine this with all the money that exited the stock market post 2000 Tech Stock Bubble boom, and you get idiots who believe the real estate agents' hype that housing prices would go up forever. The increase in pricing due to speculation eventually outpriced some people from affording homes (i.e. people whose credit was too poor or income too low for a 30 year mortgage on a $400k+ home), which caused the speculative and insane market to create things like ARMs (adjustable rate mortgages), and stated income loans (i.e. fraudulent "liar loans" where people or the broker mistate the buyer's income). At this point, people werent' even nearly thinking rationally about whether they could repay their loans, and banks were focused so much on competing to get more loans (to meet quarterly projections and such), that they ignored the massive downside risk. Much of it was carried along by brokers and real estate agents that only care about their % commission and don't have to personally face any of the downside risk (i.e. consequences of foreclosures). It was also carried along by bankers whose personal motivations (yearly bonuses) square only with projected profit rather than downside risk.

      Basically, everyone went crazy and stupid, and even when people realized it was crazy, they though they could jump on and jump off in time to make money without being caught.
      Yeah, I was wondering why the price of Ammo went up, sorry.

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      • #18
        JayRuff
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 690

        Did it maybe go up because of the war? , lol
        Last edited by JayRuff; 02-20-2008, 12:24 AM.

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        • #19
          M1A_KICHI
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2006
          • 601

          hahaha to above. Why ammo went up? War, no more importation of certain ammo (i.e. SA), metal prices going up, China buying everything, everyone buying up as much ammo as they can at increasing prices, American dollar dropping in value. It is a little bit of everything I guess. I am glad I stocked up before the SA .308 dried up. Heck, the good ole days was about 2 years ago when I can buy it for 25 bucks a battle pack.

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