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  • jamespres2001
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    • Feb 2009
    • 308

    Sniper shot on the moon

    So how would the bullet react? 1/6 gravity, no air= no wind. Would it travel farther and drop less. I truly don't know.
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    Merc1138
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    • Feb 2009
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    You answered your own question. As long as you had enough air in the cartridge for the powder to burn(not impossible to do, heck there are guns made specifically to use underwater with sealed ammo). Gravity makes the bullet drop, less gravity = less drop. Less air resistance = less drag to slow the bullet down. Recoil might be a ***** though.

    edit: Plus considering the escape velocity of the moon is only 2.4km/s(7,800fps) compared to 11.2km/s on earth, you'd already be pushing halfway to escaping orbit of the moon with some rounds.
    Last edited by Merc1138; 09-24-2012, 7:06 PM.

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    • #3
      monk
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      • Jul 2011
      • 4454

      Well, being that there is no oxygen in space, I'd say it wouldn't even go bang.



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        • Mar 2012
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        Only one way to find out.....
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          AeroEngi
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          • Oct 2010
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          I'm not too sure about this but if gun powder includes oxidizer then it doesn't matter if it's in space. It'll still go bang. Kinda like rocket propellants. They have their own oxidizer and that's how they work in space.

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            tiechshlime
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            • Jul 2012
            • 1032

            The nitrate in gun powder is an oxidizer= no oxygen needed for burn
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            • #7
              missiondude
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              • May 2008
              • 1646

              Originally posted by monk
              Well, being that there is no oxygen in space, I'd say it wouldn't even go bang.

              http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/que...php?number=617
              Gunpowder does not get the oxygen it needs to burn from the atmosphere. It would go bang...
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                • May 2011
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                • #9
                  Sonic_mike
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                  • Aug 2009
                  • 3483

                  lets send Neil to space and tell him that our moon has some hot trim.

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                  • #10
                    Merc1138
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                    • Feb 2009
                    • 19742

                    Originally posted by AeroEngi
                    I'm not too sure about this but if gun powder includes oxidizer then it doesn't matter if it's in space. It'll still go bang. Kinda like rocket propellants. They have their own oxidizer and that's how they work in space.
                    Yeah, definitely possible.

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                    Uses rounds sealed with air and powder, no reason it couldn't be done in a vacuum.

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                    • #11
                      xibunkrlilkidsx
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                      • Sep 2008
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                      russians believed a gun could fire in space so they put it on their space stations, wouldnt be suprised if we had some on ours.


                      I think that we would be seeing mile shots with 223.
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                      • #12
                        troysland
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                        • Oct 2009
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                        • #13
                          Merc1138
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                          • Feb 2009
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                          Originally posted by xibunkrlilkidsx
                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudelman-Rikhter_NR-23

                          russians believed a gun could fire in space so they put it on their space stations, wouldnt be suprised if we had some on ours.


                          I think that we would be seeing mile shots with 223.
                          Well, ignoring air resistance, and assuming the surface is flat(I think a curve would actually make it go further), a projectile launched at 1 degree using the moon's gravity of 1.62m/s^2, traveling at 2700fps would go 9 miles. Lobbing it at a 5 degree angle gets you 45 miles.

                          Input the velocity, angle, and initial height, and our trajectory calculator will find the trajectory.


                          edit: I'm sure someone is freaking out because the weight of the projectile isn't mentioned, technically it doesn't matter because the math is done pretending it's a newtonian projectile in a vacuum. Even counting the thin atmosphere( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_the_Moon ), the calculator would be more correct for a projectile on the moon that it would be on Earth.
                          Last edited by Merc1138; 09-24-2012, 7:37 PM.

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                            Vlad 11
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                            • Nov 2009
                            • 2961

                            Originally posted by monk
                            Well, being that there is no oxygen in space, I'd say it wouldn't even go bang.
                            Originally posted by AeroEngi
                            It'll still go bang.
                            Originally posted by missiondude
                            It would go bang...
                            Even if it goes 'bang', it will not really be going 'bang'...no sound in space.
                            No gas molecules present to propagate the sound waves

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                            • #15
                              JohnFLand
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 959

                              Explosive bolts are definitely known to work on the Moon (see below); so will M2 Ball ammo.

                              The lunar module was the first manned vehicle outside earth's atmosphere. Learn how the lunar module touched down on the moon.

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