chinese mags fit on saiga?

[vinny_land]

I had posted this on the Saiga-12 website but havent gotten a response yet and i have emailed Wes but i think he is at the SHOT show.

I was browsing new 10% website yesterday and noticed some PRK legal magazines for my new saiga. Somehow their website is still down.
The magazines are chinese 10 round magazine (i dont know if its in a 30 round body or not) and i was wondering if they will work on an unconverted saiga? Im guessing that i'll need to do some modifications but thats understandable. Do i need a bullet guide from dinzags or will these work without them?

[Charliegone]

If they are meant for the Saiga than yes they will work, if they are for the AK they will not work. The saiga requires some mods to it in order for it to accept ak magazines.

[vinny_land]

yeah i know i will need to modify the ak mag to fit on the saiga but i was wondering if it will need a bullet guide?

[TurboFall]

All magazines other than stock saiga mags and master molders require a bullet guide.

[vinny_land]

alright then cool thanks TurboFall and CharlieGone for your inquiries. Now i just have to get me a bullet guide from Dinzags.

[MrTuffPaws]

Not quite true. There are some mags that work unmodded, but it is more luck than anything else from my understanding.

You can mod the mag by filing the catch tab down to work with the longer mag catch of the saiga. You will most likely also be required to build up the front of the mag to act as a bullet guide. I have heard that jbweld should work, but it might not last forever. If you wanted it permanent solution, you would have to weld or revet some form of lip to the mag.

[vinny_land]

i plan to get one of these

http://www.dinzagarms.com/saiga_762x39/x39ftk.html

[Charliegone]

BTW, if you decided to make it accept ak mags you MUST play the 10 parts or less game...that means you have to replace enough imported parts on your rifle in order to make it "compliant."

here are some of the parts that you can find for the saiga

buttstock
handguard
gas piston
trigger (maybe I'm not sure)
disconnecter
hammer
muzzle brake
US made magazine (includes mag body, follower, and mag bottom all count as 3 parts)

That's 8-10 parts, If I'm not mistaken for the ak it's 6 or 7. If someone can chime in.

[railroader]

Why do you want to convert the rifle to work with 10 round chinese mags. I could see converting it to use some pre ban hicaps. Also your saiga mag will no longer work unless you file on it if you use a bullet guide. Mark

[vinny_land]

Why do you want to convert the rifle to work with 10 round chinese mags. I could see converting it to use some pre ban hicaps. Also your saiga mag will no longer work unless you file on it if you use a bullet guide. Mark

Saiga mags cost almost $30 while Wes at 10% has these 10 round ones for only $10. Also im not doing a full conversion to the saiga but i dont understand the 922r game, like how many parts do i need?

Back to the mags, im only talking about installing a bullet guide to accept 10 round mags that have been filed and fitted to an unconverted saiga.

[jacques]

Saiga mags cost almost $30 while Wes at 10% has these 10 round ones for only $10. Also im not doing a full conversion to the saiga but i dont understand the 922r game, like how many parts do i need?

Back to the mags, im only talking about installing a bullet guide to accept 10 round mags that have been filed and fitted to an unconverted saiga.

I would say that changing one 10-rnd mag to another 10rnd mag is not putting the rifle into a "unsporting" configuration, if that is all you are doing to it.

I bought a muzzle break for mine and that was the only mod I was going to make, then I realized, a muzzle break is considered "unsporting" there is a link on Dinzag that is good to read on parts counts and mods.

http://www.dinzagarms.com/922r/922r.html

[vinny_land]

I would say that changing one 10-rnd mag to another 10rnd mag is not putting the rifle into a "unsporting" configuration, if that is all you are doing to it.
http://www.dinzagarms.com/922r/922r.html

I was thinking the same thing. I mean its not a hi-cap nor its a preban. Im simply asking if these chi-com mags will work with a bullet guide or not?

[jacques]

I was thinking the same thing. I mean its not a hi-cap nor its a preban. Im simply asking if these chi-com mags will work with a bullet guide or not?

I know a lot of people on the SAIGA-12 website have used all kinds of mags. Not sure about Chinese though.

[vinny_land]

i guess i'll have to try it out then If it doesnt feed right then i'll have to try different types of ammo and/or buy the bullet guide.

[69Mach1]

i guess i'll have to try it out then If it doesnt feed right then i'll have to try different types of ammo and/or buy the bullet guide.

Regular AK magazines, which is what the 10 round Chinese magazine is, will not work in an unmodified Saiga. You won't even be able to get it to lock into place, and you will need to install a bullet guide for it to function.

Now installing a bullet guide, and filing the rear of the magazine catch on the rifle will let you install a regular AK magazine, but just because it will only be 10 rounds does not exempt it from the Fed 922r regulations. A high cap magazine can be just as easily insterted into the rifle as the 10 round one. The modified Saiga has the ability to accept military high cap mags.