Is this considered a Pistol Grip Stock?

[frigginchi]

[Vepr62]

?

yes
Vasiliy

[frigginchi]

Hmmmm. Doesn't look much different than u-15 stock.

yes
Vasiliy

[Gnote]

I'd say yes too based on where your thumb would be placed.

[ViPER395]

Your thumb would rest above...

[paradox]

Hmmmm. Doesn't look much different than u-15 stock.

Both that stock and the U-15 allow a "pistol style grasp". The U-15 makes sure that the web of the hand is above the top most exposed portion of the trigger, thus it doesn't protrude below the action of the weapon.

Yes our laws are that silly.

[leelaw]

Hmmmm. Doesn't look much different than u-15 stock.

It looks completely different. The above pictured stock clearly allows the web of the thumb to be located under the action of the weapon, while also allowing for a pistol-like grasp.

The U-15 pushes the grip backwards, not just down, and is more like a common hunting stock. The above pictured stock looks like a pistol grip with a skeletonized stock attached.

[frigginchi]

RETARDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NeoWeird]

The main difference that is going to make this particular stock illegal but the U-15 legal is that the AR has a relief cut in the receiver to allow for a better inline grasp. The U-15 stock forces the web of te hand into this relief and it doesn't fall bellow the "action" of the weapon. This particular stock looks like it mounts to a pistol or below the action. In either scenario unless it forced you to grasp the top of the stock the web of your hand will ALWAYS be bellow the "action" of the weapon.

Stupid, but that's the truth.

[MonsterMan]

The following definitions apply to terms used in the identification of assault weapons pursuant to Penal Code section 12276.1:

(d) "pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon" means a grip that allows for a pistol style grasp in which the web of the trigger hand (between the thumb and index finger) can be placed below the top exposed portion of the trigger while firing.

The above grip/stock would not even be close to being legal. You could always use it with a fixed mag rifle if you really have your heart set on using it.

[FullMetalJacket]

Silly questions...

Did anyone ever think of extending an AR's trigger so that one would have to use the middle finger as the trigger finger? Or extending/reorienting the trigger so that is was lower than the web of the hand?

(edit: I guess the U-15 grip sorta does this without changing the trigger...)