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  • AC89
    Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 201

    Rainier Arms Evolution Rail?

    Any body have any experience with the Rainier Arms Evolution Free Float System made by Samson MFG, or the Samson Evolution Free Float forend? Im looking to pick one up but really dont know much about it. It looks nice and the few reviews I can find paint it in good light.

    But what I want to know is how strong it is, how well it holds up to a beating, any long term issues etc. I am also open to alternative rail systems, also liking the Centurion C4 rail system.

    Looking to lighten up my rifle just a bit while not compromising flexibility and strength. My 11" troy trx standard rails be a bit heavy for my liking.
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    Prc329
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2006
    • 5603

    Have you looked at the Midwest industries gen 2 SS? I have one and really like it. Light and slim. Also seems pretty strong.
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    • #3
      till44
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 2604

      I put a 12" one of these on a Reece build last fall. Here's the pros and cons that I have found.

      PROS:
      - light, only 11 oz if you don't put all the extra rails on.
      - circumfrance. I like that I can wrap almot my entire hand around the rail, I feel like I have better control of the front of the gun.
      - easy install. No joke, one of the easiest rails out there to do yourself.
      - modular. I didn't need tons of rail-estate, I needed a small section for a bipod and that was it.

      CONS:
      - The rail is strong, but due to the way it mounts to the upper receiver Isimilar to the TRX and VTAC rails), there can be some give between the two if you are really placing extra pressure towrds the end of the rail. For example, if I load the bipod too much (really leaning into the bipod) I can get the rail to slightly flex. It's a minor issue that has no ill effect and rarely happens.

      Over countless hunting trips, range outings with friends, and a class the rail has been great. I think Centurion makes a great product as well, owner is a veteran which I like supporting. You will get a tougher rail, but pay more for them. Have you looked at the DD MFR? A littel heavier (12.2 oz) than the Evolution, but looks slightly more ergonomic. I have no experience with one but have heard good things.
      Last edited by till44; 08-15-2012, 8:44 AM.

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      • #4
        AC89
        Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 201

        Cant say I have looked at those yet, but I will take a look, thanks.

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        • #5
          Bladewurk
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 1411

          I was gonna get one as I like my bud's. They are nice and slim and seem plenty strong. Nice modular rail!
          (quote)"Glocks blow up, SIGs have a high bore axis, Beretta locking blocks break, Ruger is anti-gun, 1911s are unreliable, and HK hates you. Get over it."

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          • #6
            Prc329
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2006
            • 5603

            The 9" Rail you listed is 9.5 OZ. The 9" MI Gen 2 SS is 8.3 OZ.

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            • #7
              762.DEFENSE
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2010
              • 6314

              Originally posted by Prc329
              Have you looked at the Midwest industries gen 2 SS? I have one and really like it. Light and slim. Also seems pretty strong.
              I have the Gen 2 in 12" and the Gen 1 in 15" and love them both.

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              • #8
                AC89
                Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 201

                Thanks guys, taking a good look at the mi rail. Now for the tough one, what dont you like about the mi rail?

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                • #9
                  Prc329
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 5603

                  Originally posted by AC89
                  Thanks guys, taking a good look at the mi rail. Now for the tough one, what dont you like about the mi rail?
                  Its very light, one of the lightest out there.
                  Its slim. So slim I can almost fit my whole hand around it.
                  I think it looks really good
                  I like the way it goes on the upper.

                  I am running a Vltor Mur-A1 and the upper feels much lighter then my older setup.
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                  • #10
                    ExtremeX
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 7160

                    I have the Samson Evolution and it feels great.

                    I went with the 12.37" for a middy 14.5"

                    I could have went a bit shorter on the rail to cut down on additional weight, but the rail is pretty light.
                    ExtremeX

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                    • #11
                      dbrinas
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 26

                      if you look at the Stag 3gun AR it uses the Samson Evolution rail. so I would think its pretty legit.

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                      • #12
                        Tjfearl
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 1108

                        I have one on my Rainier Arms CE 16 Upper and it is a very sturdy. I believe it is a 13.2" model. It would be a PIA to adjust the rail attachments, but I like the way they came on it.
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                        • #13
                          firebert
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 1349

                          I have the MI Gen2 SS also. Was going to pick up the Rainier Arms one but they were out of stock at the time.

                          Things I don't like about the Gen2 SS:
                          - The longer 4.5" rail section is sold seperately. Others come with 2 short section, 1 long section - this comes with 3 short sections.
                          - The rail/QD socket section design is dumb. They should've just made a dedicated QD socket section because you could only use one or the other with most rail mounted accessories

                          Other than that i'm happy with it. Love the price, got it on ineedmoregear for ~$145 shipped
                          03FFL - NRA Life Member - GOA Member

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                          • #14
                            Jyruiz
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 2045

                            Wow, I really like the MI Gen2 SS.

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                            • #15
                              Prc329
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 5603

                              And the MI comes with a bipod stud if your gonna build a precision rifle.
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