AR Pistol question

[chris.xia75]

Hi,

If I'm buying a complete lower to a fellow calgunner setup as a rifle... can i register it as a pistol when I do the paperwork?

thanks!

C.

[edgerly779]

no. once a rifle always a rifle.

[Josh3239]

The lower isn't rostered... so no.

[chillincody]

Hi,

If I'm buying a complete lower to a fellow calgunner setup as a rifle... can i register it as a pistol when I do the paperwork?

thanks!

C.

a rifle lower can NEVER NEVER NEVER be a pistol buy a 80% and join a build party to build yourself a ar pistol

[kAnJii]

Stupid question but...why does an AR "pistol" need a bullet button if it's a pistol?

[rt66paul]

The mag is not in the grip.

[Josh3239]

Stupid question but...why does an AR "pistol" need a bullet button if it's a pistol?

Because then it would be an assault weapon. Same reason you don't see pistols in CA with detachable magazines and threaded barrels/second handgrips/flash hiders/magazines outside the grips

[phdo]

A pistol can be converted to a rifle. It doesn't work vice versa.

[kAnJii]

Thank. It makes sense.

[chris.xia75]

I see... so sad...
alright... then I gotta find the one I want in CA... which is pretty hard to find I guess... ;(

thanks guys!

C.

[deviljon]

Got a question related to the topic so I'm just going to ask.

Can an 80% lower used for a pistol be turned into a rifle and then back to a pistol? Since it's never officially recognized as a rifle? Assuming you don't register it of course..

[rero360]

Got a question related to the topic so I'm just going to ask.

Can an 80% lower used for a pistol be turned into a rifle and then back to a pistol? Since it's never officially recognized as a rifle? Assuming you don't register it of course..

No, now while that may change in the future, currently once it becomes a rifle it can never become a pistol. Now yes there is the fact that if its an 80% there is no way some one would know, Hower you still run the problem of constructive possession of having the pistol upper while the gun is a rifle (SBR CP that is)

So until the ATF decides to look at ARs like the TC Encore/Contender don't even think about it, its a one way ticket to Federal pound me in the azz prison with all gun rights lost forever.

[CSACANNONEER]

Stupid question but...why does an AR "pistol" need a bullet button if it's a pistol?

Stupid question but.........have you ever read the Ca AW laws? I suggest doing so or, at least, looking at the handgun flow chart.

[ke6guj]

Can an 80% lower used for a pistol be turned into a rifle and then back to a pistol? Since it's never officially recognized as a rifle? Assuming you don't register it of course..

physically, yes.
legally, maybe.


ATF has recently said that it would not violate federal law to go pistol > rifle > pistol. However, it is not known if CA would allow it. It is assumed that they could consider it to be an SBR when you went back to a pistol.

Now, with a homebuilt firearm, unless it was documented that it went P > R > P, would they know, probably not, but that doesn't make it legal to do so.

[ke6guj]

So until the ATF decides to look at ARs like the TC Encore/Contender don't even think about it, its a one way ticket to Federal pound me in the azz prison with all gun rights lost forever.

incorrect, you wouldn't be violating federal law in the case, so Federal "pound me in the ***" prison would not be the destination. It is CA law that would be the issue, not federal law.