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  • #16
    Jeepers
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3415

    Originally posted by Josh3239
    They don't know, can't prove it, and the answer doesn't matter. Possession and usage are not illegal. The fact that the OP has them means nothing and it cannot be proven either way how he got them. High cap mag charges have only been successful when attached to far worse crimes.
    it does matter because i get so tired of seeing folk promoting illegal activity's

    it is illegal to import or manufacture a mag over 10 rds , possession is not illegal but if a DA want to charge they can and will , usually a addon charge but it happens all the time in CA read your local crime reports i see charges for "high cap" mag a few time a year even in my lil area....


    bottom line folks stop insuating its ok to do something illegal if you owned the mags pre ban in ca all is good and legal , if not its your arse ....


    as far as selling the M1 with mags it also can be done as long as the mags are broken down into repair kits for legally owned repair of pre 2000 mags in ca , but selling the mags are not grandfathered like that only the orig owner pre 2000 in ca is grandfathered in to own the assembled mags
    Last edited by Jeepers; 07-05-2012, 4:07 PM.
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    Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement.

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    • #17
      Josh3239
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2006
      • 9189

      I didn't promote illegal activity, I answered the question directly. If it makes you feel better we can post it again, it is against the law to import high capacity magazines into the state of California. There, it still doesn't make the rest of my post wrong. Possession and usage are still not a crime, and it doesn't matter how someone with them got them. Unless the state can prove a crime occured it just doesn't matter.

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      • #18
        PEZHEAD265
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 980

        Originally posted by Hibs
        I'm not playing any stupid games. I'm not implying to anyone that they should break the law. I asked how they can prove that the mags you own weren't purchased prior to the year 2000. Josh3239 answered my question with his post. So what's your problem?

        And FYI, I left all my hi-cap mags in my home state of record. No mags were imported here illegally from another state.
        Ok lets put it this way if you didn't live in the state of CA in the year 2000 you couldn't have own the mags in CA since 2000,So bringing them in to the state after the year 2000 you imported them [felony].Josh3239 is wrong it can be proven that you didn't have the mags prior to the year 2000 cause you didn't live hear then.Brake them down to mag kits and by 10 rounders di not put them back together in the state of CA[felony]That is why Merc said you are playing word games.

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        • #19
          Hibs
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 56

          Originally posted by PEZHEAD265
          Ok lets put it this way if you didn't live in the state of CA in the year 2000 you couldn't have own the mags in CA since 2000,So bringing them in to the state after the year 2000 you imported them [felony].Josh3239 is wrong it can be proven that you didn't have the mags prior to the year 2000 cause you didn't live hear then.Brake them down to mag kits and by 10 rounders di not put them back together in the state of CA[felony]That is why Merc said you are playing word games.
          Thanks. I'm aware of what the laws are here as I checked into it before I moved to California. Like I all ready stated, I left all my hi-cap mags in my home state of record. No mags were imported here illegally from another state.

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          • #20
            PEZHEAD265
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 980

            I'm just tring to tell you for you mere possesion is a crime because you could never say you had them pre 2000.It can be proven that you couldn't have owned them.If you know the laws and understood them Josh3239 info couldn't have helped you in any way.Not many judges arew going to belive you just found them.Some people like to play the game but I would rather spend my money on ammo and gun then on lawyers.
            Last edited by PEZHEAD265; 07-05-2012, 9:28 PM.

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            • #21
              Merc1138
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
              • 19742

              Originally posted by PEZHEAD265
              I'm just tring to tell you for you mere possesion is a crime because you could never say you had them pre 2000.It can be proven that you couldn't have owned them.I f you know the laws and understood them Josh3239 info couldn't have helped you in any way.
              Possession is not a crime, as they can't necessarily prove that he manufactured or imported them. However that doesn't make it alright to start implying "oh, they'll never know" is some sort of secret code for "go ahead".

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              • #22
                PEZHEAD265
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 980

                I'm not a lawyer but the way I'm interpreting the law as this.It is legal to own hi-caps if you had them prior to 2000 in the state of CA.It is legal to own mag kits to rebuild you legal mags that you had prior to 2000.I can't figure any way they legally got in to the state and it is harder if you didn't live here pre-ban.How do you explain having rebuild kits for preban mags if you didn't live here?I'm not talking about the legal exemptions just the average person.I'm not sure how the laws are in forced but just say that the said person shot and wounded a intruder in his house with the 15rd mag in his M1.Don't you think the intruder[SC--BAG] is going to sue and his lawyer is going to question how he became to own a 15 rd mag when he did not live in the state prior to 2000.It might make him the criminal.The hi-cap mag possesion laws are a gray area but ask a few of the lawyers in the forum and they will say it is illegal.SB 249 is going to make it clear no hi-caps or kits in the future.
                Last edited by PEZHEAD265; 07-06-2012, 4:19 AM.

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                • #23
                  Sailormilan2
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 3432

                  Originally posted by tujungatoes
                  There's nothing wrong with using 10+ round magazines in a standard M1 carbine. Have no fear...I don't think I even own a 10rd mag for my carbine.
                  I know I don't own a 10 rd mag for the M1 Carbine. Numerous 15s and a few 30s.
                  Very similar to my M1As(M14s). I think I have one 10 rd mag for 3 guns, the rest are all 20s.

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                  • #24
                    billetmann
                    Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 137

                    i have a question on hi-cap mags.
                    i had a true AW much before 2000 with a few hi cap (30+) mags. i got rid of the gun but kept a few of the magazines. i have since bought a new AR15 with features and a BB. question--Can i use these hi cap mags in the new gun?

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                    • #25
                      ouch1
                      Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 253

                      Originally posted by billetmann
                      i have a question on hi-cap mags.
                      i had a true AW much before 2000 with a few hi cap (30+) mags. i got rid of the gun but kept a few of the magazines. i have since bought a new AR15 with features and a BB. question--Can i use these hi cap mags in the new gun?
                      Sorry but no. The only ways you could legally use them in Ca is to either modify them to only hold 10 rounds (this can be done a few different ways including a glue in mag block, or a rivet to stop the follower at 10 rounds) for use in an AR with a mag-lock (aka bullet-button). Or the other option is to change the AR into a featureless configuration. I.e. fixed compensator, fixed stock (either A2 style or pinned to be fixed), and no pistol grip (either a kydex wrap on the grip or something like a monsterman grip). But in the featureless config you can use full 30 rounds mags without a problem.

                      -ouch1
                      Last edited by ouch1; 07-06-2012, 2:49 PM.

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