Legality of M16 bolt carrier in an OLL

[jimx]

You, sir, are using outdated information. I refer you to this





M16 bolt carrier assemblies for everyone!

That not how I read it, the m16 bc must be modified to an AR15 SP1.
So bottom line is you cannot take an m16 bc off the shelf and put in a ar15?????????????????

This could be a sticky to show you should not use the search button. Several people get flamed for spreading fud. On post #36 Sam posts http://www.atf.gov/pub/fire-explo_pu...4/gen_info.pdf

[Lon Moer]

That not how I read it, the m16 bc must be modified to an AR15 SP1.
So bottom line is you cannot take an m16 bc off the shelf and put in a ar15?????????????????

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The last paragraph very clearly shows that any M-16 part that doesn't cause the firearm to fire automatically is legal to use.

[bwiese]

I OWN A COUPLE OF M16 BOLT CARRIERS INSTALLED IN MY ARs.

(I do not have installed, nor do I possess, any M16 fire control group parts).

There, it's been said. No one will come crashing down my doors.

My guns don't/won't double, I have quality AR15 fire control parts and disconnectors and properly installed disco spring.

Quite a few 'name' mfgrs - incl Colt - actually ship M16 bolt carriers in their AR rifles and have been doing this for quite some time.

[BlackReef]

The way I understand it, is it is probably ok to own M-16 parts, as long as it is NOT related to the fire control group. I think BC's are fine.

In that regard, who sells a good M16 Bolt Carrier? Im interested now. Bill, you have any extra ones you want to sell?

[Omega13device]

In that regard, who sells a good M16 Bolt Carrier?

LMT and Bravo Company (BCM) both have an excellent reputation.

[aplinker]

LMT and Bravo Company (BCM) both have an excellent reputation.

Agreed... BCM does more testing, LMT is LMT. Of the two, I would and DID choose BCM.

[jimx]

???
The last paragraph very clearly shows that any M-16 part that doesn't cause the firearm to fire automatically is legal to use.

[panzerfast]

You guys are taking that quote completely out of context. Read the entire section:

ATF has encountered various AR-15
type assault rifles such as those manufactured
by Colt, E.A. Company, SGW,
Sendra and others, which have been
assembled with fire control components
designed for use in M16 machineguns.
The vast majority of these rifles which
have been assembled with an M16 bolt
carrier, hammer, trigger, disconnector
and selector will fire automatically
merely by manipulation of the selector
or removal of the disconnector. Many of
these rifles using less than the 5 M16
parts listed above also will shoot automatically
by manipulation of the selector
or removal of the disconnector.
Any weapon which shoots automatically
more than 1 shot without manual
reloading, by a single function of the
trigger, is a machinegun as defined in
26 U.S.C. 5845(b), the National Firearms
Act (NFA). The definition of a
machinegun also includes any combination
of parts from which a machinegun
may be assembled, if such parts are in
possession or under the control of a
person. An AR-15 type assault rifle
which fires more than 1 shot by a single
function of the trigger is a machinegun
under the NFA. Any machinegun is
subject to the NFA and the possession
of an unregistered machinegun could
subject the possessor to criminal prosecution.
Additionally, these rifles could pose a
safety hazard in that they may fire automatically
without the user being aware
that the weapon will fire more than 1
shot with a single pull of the trigger.
In order to avoid violations of the
NFA, M16 hammers, triggers, disconnectors,
selectors and bolt carriers must
not be used in assembly of AR-15 type
semiautomatic rifles, unless the M16
parts have been modified to AR-15
Model SP1 configuration. Any AR-15
type rifles which have been assembled
with M16 internal components should
have those parts removed and replaced
with AR-15 Model SP1 type parts which
are available commercially. The M16
components also may be modified to
AR-15 Model SP1 configuration.
It is important to note that any modification
of the M16 parts should be attempted
by fully qualified personnel
only.
Should you have any questions concerning
AR-15 type rifles with M16
parts, please contact your nearest ATF
office. A list of ATF field offices is on
page 198 of this publication.

The way I interpret it, and with my understanding of how an M16 works, not having the auto bolt carrier will prevent any chance of the weapon firing automatically if other M16 parts are installed and with "manipultion of the selector or removal of the disconnector."

Basically, no auto carrier, no chance of full auto regardless of other parts.

If you don't have any of the other auto parts you have nothing to worry about.

edit: wow, I totally necrobumped this thread. I apologize. I found the link on google and thought it was current.

[Sniper3142]

I OWN A COUPLE OF M16 BOLT CARRIERS INSTALLED IN MY ARs.

(I do not have installed, nor do I possess, any M16 fire control group parts).

There, it's been said. No one will come crashing down my doors.

My guns don't/won't double, I have quality AR15 fire control parts and disconnectors and properly installed disco spring.

Quite a few 'name' mfgrs - incl Colt - actually ship M16 bolt carriers in their AR rifles and have been doing this for quite some time.

+1 to that!

I recently picked up 2 LMT FA (Full Auto / M16) Bolt Carriers.

They are totally legal for use in an AR15 as long as the other full auto components (lower receiver trigger parts) are not present.



BTW, the LMT carriers are VERY nice.

[ohsmily]

[ar15barrels]

The way I interpret it, and with my understanding of how an M16 works, not having the auto bolt carrier will prevent any chance of the weapon firing automatically if other M16 parts are installed and with "manipultion of the selector or removal of the disconnector."

Basically, no auto carrier, no chance of full auto regardless of other parts.

If you don't have any of the other auto parts you have nothing to worry about.

edit: wow, I totally necrobumped this thread. I apologize. I found the link on google and thought it was current.

The mere presence of the auto-sear (or even the sear pin hole), or an un-registered DIAS makes the gun an illegal machinegun.
Since you would never have the auto-sear in a legal semi-auto rifle, there's no issue having the auto carrier because there's nothing for the auto carrier to trip when the carrier comes forward.

[GI-M1]

Are there any actual court \ arrests based on the AR being configured as described in previous (posts)?

I would imagine that what is in the law books is not as important than what configurations they are actually prosecuting. Just a guess.

[technique]

For an AR, a lighting link is a drop in auto sear. Its like a drop in Chip McCormick trigger in a way. Its just a box that fits right in the back of your lower, no need for an extra fun hole drilled in your lower.

They are illegal..bad, no no!!!



this is a necro post......let it RIP

[Tweak338]

The second I saw an SAS quote, I stopped reading..

[ar15barrels]

The second I saw an SAS quote, I stopped Read..

Mid sente?