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  • santacruzstefan
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 4796

    So I want to buy a bolt gun

    I really got into shooting with black rifles, but now I think I would like a bolt gun. Now, I still have to admit to liking that tacticool look, and really liked the idea of a Remington 700 5R in one of those AICS 1.5 stocks. How does such a set up sound to you guys who have more experience with bolt guns? Anything I should add or change to it? Also, the 5R (if thats even the model I ought to buy) comes in a couple varieties it seems: one with a 24" barrel, and one with a 20" barrel that I believe is threaded. Which is better? What are the pros/ cons of each? This will be chambered in .308. by the way. Thanks for your help fellas.
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    MT1
    Banned
    • Jun 2007
    • 3657

    The 5R is the best out of the box rifle you can get without spending 1K+ more over it's price. Even spending the money on a true custom rifle might only get you a nicer stock because my buddy's GAP shoots no better at anywhere out to 1000y than my 5R does, and my other friend's Savage 10FCMP is not even close.

    Mine is the 24" version, you won't lose much going to the threaded 20" and it allows you to add a brake which is nice for bench shooting. If you're shooting prone and lock into the rifle well the recoil won't bother you so the 24" would be my choice.

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    • #3
      santacruzstefan
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 4796

      Originally posted by MT1
      The 5R is the best out of the box rifle you can get without spending 1K+ more over it's price. Even spending the money on a true custom rifle might only get you a nicer stock because my buddy's GAP shoots no better at anywhere out to 1000y than my 5R does, and my other friend's Savage 10FCMP is not even close.

      Mine is the 24" version, you won't lose much going to the threaded 20" and it allows you to add a brake which is nice for bench shooting. If you're shooting prone and lock into the rifle well the recoil won't bother you so the 24" would be my choice.
      Thats what I had heard (about quality of the 5R) and that it wa s basically a M24 with a different barrel contour. But what about the AICS stock? Also just saw an AX AICS, which looks totally awesome.

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      • #4
        MT1
        Banned
        • Jun 2007
        • 3657

        Originally posted by santacruzstefan
        Thats what I had heard (about quality of the 5R) and that it wa s basically a M24 with a different barrel contour. But what about the AICS stock? Also just saw an AX AICS, which looks totally awesome.


        The rifling type is the same as the M24 barrel, but it is not a true Rock barrel as is used on the military M24.

        The 5R HS Precision stock is very capable, and I actually like it quite a bit, some people don't like them at all even compared to the slightly different 700P stock due to the shape of the palm swell. The AICS is a great stock, but it is very heavy so if you plan on doing any kind of mobile station shooting you might want to look at a Mcmillan A4/A5...have not used one of the AX AICS stocks so I won't comment on them.

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        • #5
          darksands
          Senior Member
          • May 2008
          • 710

          +1 on the 5R. Mine shoots sub MOA out of the box with my reloads.


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          • #6
            projectalpha
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 91

            Originally posted by santacruzstefan
            Thats what I had heard (about quality of the 5R) and that it wa s basically a M24 with a different barrel contour. But what about the AICS stock? Also just saw an AX AICS, which looks totally awesome.

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            • #7
              CS Sports
              Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 297

              Originally posted by MT1
              The 5R is the best out of the box rifle you can get without spending 1K+ more over it's price. Even spending the money on a true custom rifle might only get you a nicer stock because my buddy's GAP shoots no better at anywhere out to 1000y than my 5R does, and my other friend's Savage 10FCMP is not even close.

              Mine is the 24" version, you won't lose much going to the threaded 20" and it allows you to add a brake which is nice for bench shooting. If you're shooting prone and lock into the rifle well the recoil won't bother you so the 24" would be my choice.
              Agreed. The 700 5R is a lot of rifle for the money.

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              • #8
                CS Sports
                Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 297

                Originally posted by MT1
                The rifling type is the same as the M24 barrel, but it is not a true Rock barrel as is used on the military M24.

                The M24 does not use a Rock barrel. Don't believe me, call Mike and ask him. His number is 608-862-2357. If you call, tell him Charley says "hi".

                Remington makes their own 5R barrels now using a hammer forging process. Apparently Mike made a few barrels early on (I forget the number, it's been years since he told me), but hasn't made barrels for Remington in a very long time.

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                • #9
                  NOTABIKER
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 7635

                  SAVAGE bolt, less bling, more bang. savage has a fantastic line up.

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                  • #10
                    TwinStick
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 1210

                    OP already stated twice that he likes the bling.

                    Take a look at the other aftermarket stocks out there for the 700 also. Though the AICS has the looks you're after, they are not cheap. McMillan, Bell & Carlson, etc. Also, when looking to get into precision shooting, check out snipershide.com.

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                    • #11
                      Wolfie_AR
                      Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 313

                      The Remington 500's are great rifles but If I were to only own one bolt action rifle, I'd get a Savage. You can easily remove the barrel and the bolt's floating head can be replaced with another caliber. So if you are done with .308. Get a new barrel and new bolt head and voila, new caliber bolt gun. They are very accurate in part because of the floating head design. Lot's of aftermarket parts, including stocks if one doesn't suit your taste from the factory and.... they are cheap comparatively.
                      "In the end people ARE AS THEY CHOOSE TO BE. It is no one else's fault but theirs. Just because you don't like the choices available does not abdicate the inherent responsibility for your choices." - meaty-btz

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                      • #12
                        TwinStick
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1210

                        BTW, someone has a Rem 700 with AICS 1.5 for sale in the private firearms classifieds.

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                        • #13
                          brando
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 3694

                          Whatever you get, if your experience with precision shooting and using scopes is limited, take the time to get some training or attend a few clinics with the precision shooting clubs. I see a lot of people at the range wasting time and money trying to figure out why it's not as easy as shooting their ARs.
                          --Brando

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                          • #14
                            rero360
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 3926

                            I suggest you get behind the gun and get a feel for it before buying it, you may find you don't like the AICS stock. There are a bunch of options out there and while the resale value would still be good, it sucks to buy something that you end up not liking.

                            But, you can't go wrong with that rifle.

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                            • #15
                              Stoopy
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 518

                              What are you using it for?

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