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  • southbayrookie
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    • Dec 2009
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    AK M70 good to get?

    wanted to find out if AK M70 (zastava) is good to get.


    any cons or pros against: tantal or wasr 10?
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    69Mach1
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    yes. Hell yes.

    Mitchell Arms version is banned though.
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      southbayrookie
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      is it as close as you can get to russian ak or better get converted saiga? also, why mitchell arms banned?

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        69Mach1
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        If you're referring to the new imported ones, they are made in Serbia. Very nice quality.

        Michell Arms is a listed CA assault weapon. Those were importing in the 80's.
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          southbayrookie
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          yep, new imported ones.... phew thought it might be banned


          so this is better than tantal?

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            69Mach1
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            Different, not better, not worse.
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              Richard Erichsen
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              • Jan 2011
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              Originally posted by southbayrookie
              wanted to find out if AK M70 (zastava) is good to get.

              any cons or pros against: tantal or wasr 10?
              One of the better built (if not overbuilt) AKs out there. The Tantal is also well built, but in a different class based on the caliber and mass. Between the two 7.62x39 mm rifles, the M70 is the one I'd select.

              The M70B2/AB2 models (fixed and folding stock, respectively) have a lot of Yugo specific features not found on other AKs. They are not entirely AKM compatible, with several parts unique to this class of AKs. I did a write up on this not long ago. You can find it here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...hlight=M70+PAP

              The Polish OBR Tantal is also a great rifle, but in 5.45x39 mm. It is presently cheaper to shoot (assuming all milsurp) and a great addition if you don't already have an AK74 class weapon. Tantal deviates from the AK74 in a number of ways, having certain backward compatibility in parts to the older AKM, though all the important parts (the action) are AK74. I'm building one of these in the near future having gotten all my parts but the rear sight base.

              If you'd prefer to buy up a lot of ammo for more range fun, the WASR 10 will be cheaper than either of the above rifles (though the ammo will add up given the delta between 5.45x39 and 7.62x39), whether building or buying. They are rougher and ruder but they are the consumate AKM and you can't go wrong just buying up ammo by the crate with the money you save on AK-snobbery some of us suffer from.

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                ZX-10R
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                • May 2010
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                Yes. A Saiga does not compare really.
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                  WTSGDYBBR
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                  • Jun 2010
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                  If you plan to get one in a kit form make sure the barrel is good most of all of them seen action in the balkans war
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                    Richard Erichsen
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                    • Jan 2011
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                    Even many of the "dark bore" surplus models have plenty of life in them, but are in need of good electrolytic cleaning to knock the crud out.

                    New barrels from AK-Builder or Green Mountain are just fine too and available in either plain or chrome lined.

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                    • #11
                      REDdawn6
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                      • May 2011
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                      I just DROS`d a Zastav P.A.P at D.A.S. it is the civilian version. not sure if they are on their website but you can google Zastava PAP
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                        zfields
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                        • Aug 2010
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                        Is the PAP a single stack still, or am I thinking different model.
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                          artoaster
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                          • Mar 2012
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                          AK47 Cold War Rifle Black Poly
                          Product Specifications :

                          Base rifle imported from Russia's Izmash Arsenal

                          Russian Markings

                          16 Inch chrome lined threaded barrel with removable brake

                          G-2 Fire Control

                          Black Poly Stock Set by Arsenal / Kvar

                          1 -30 round mag

                          1 Year limited factory warranty

                          This, to me, looks like a good AK. Price is a little more at $739 but if it buys some real piece of mind then I like it.


                          You generally run out of time before you run out of ammo.

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                            zfields
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                            • Aug 2010
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                            Originally posted by artoaster




                            AK47 Cold War Rifle Black Poly
                            Product Specifications :

                            Base rifle imported from Russia's Izmash Arsenal

                            Russian Markings

                            16 Inch chrome lined threaded barrel with removable brake

                            G-2 Fire Control

                            Black Poly Stock Set by Arsenal / Kvar

                            1 -30 round mag

                            1 Year limited factory warranty

                            This, to me, looks like a good AK. Price is a little more at $739 but if it buys some real piece of mind then I like it.

                            Just another converted Saiga...
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                            • #15
                              artoaster
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                              • Mar 2012
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                              Yes, but I guess the fun is doing it yourself, although little, if any, cost savings after all the buying, ordering, and shipping charges.


                              You generally run out of time before you run out of ammo.

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