Hmmm can't decide.

[PandaLuv]

BCM

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-Mid-Length-Upper-Receiver-Group-p/bcm-urg-mid-16.htm

Or New Frontier Armory.

http://newfrontierarmory.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=245_248_282&products_id=33241&zenid=068cc4833f40628ea16596209caf360a

Both are very different, but they are the same price, my budget is $600 for a complete upper(sights, bolt, charging handle etc).

I want a mall ninja rifle, but something I could use if SHTF. Both designs look great, IMO.

Appreciate the input, thanks!

[mc21]

Who let you out panda? get back to the handgun cage.

[G60]

Have you looked at PSA uppers?

[PandaLuv]

Have you looked at PSA uppers?

never heard of them...x

still new to ARs, just picked up my stripped lower.

[PandaLuv]

Who let you out panda? get back to the handgun cage.

lol! I am more of a handgun shooter, but ummm, I wants an AR!

[nick]

I have both (except for my NFA upper is 18", but it's the same barrel, just longer), and yes, they are quite different. For the first AR, I'd go with BCM. In fact, I did just that for my first AR, and it's still my favorite.

Other than that, and without going into expensive brands, PSA uppers are pretty good, as are Riflegear's (not sure if they still use DD barrels, but they used to, and the quality of their upper with DD barrel that I have is great). I heard Stags are good (and inexpensive), but I don't have any personal experience with them.

Make sure to get a good LPK, that will save you some drama. Then again, you like drama

[jeffrice6]

I drink the Cool-aid, I dig BCM.... I'm a big fan of their carbine length 14.5" in either standard or LW configuration.

[DavidR310]

I have that NFA bought in the store while on a vegas trip. Let me know if you want me to take any pics of the upper.

David.

[PandaLuv]

I have both (except for my NFA upper is 18", but it's the same barrel, just longer), and yes, they are quite different. For the first AR, I'd go with BCM. In fact, I did just that for my first AR, and it's still my favorite.

Other than that, and without going into expensive brands, PSA uppers are pretty good, as are Riflegear's (not sure if they still use DD barrels, but they used to, and the quality of their upper with DD barrel that I have is great). I heard Stags are good (and inexpensive), but I don't have any personal experience with them.

Make sure to get a good LPK, that will save you some drama. Then again, you like drama

I am not in OT anymore, so less drama I am gonna go with magpul MOE complete LPK. Looks good and the price seems fair.

Anyways, what makes BCM a good starter gun? Is it the simplicity ? Is it because it's more traditional?

[PandaLuv]

I have that NFA bought in the store while on a vegas trip. Let me know if you want me to take any pics of the upper.

David.

Would love if you could post some.

How is it? Pretty reliable?

[nick]

I am not in OT anymore, so less drama I am gonna go with magpul MOE complete LPK. Looks good and the price seems fair.

Anyways, what makes BCM a good starter gun? Is it the simplicity ? Is it because it's more traditional?

It works, hence you don't have to try to figure out whether you screwed up your first build, or you got a bad upper. And it's a good upper to begin with (you know what they say, I'm not rich enough to buy cheap stuff), and BCM stuff holds value pretty good.

For the LPK, you're talking about the PSA ones, right?

[PandaLuv]

It works, hence you don't have to try to figure out whether you screwed up your first build, or you got a bad upper. And it's a good upper to begin with (you know what they say, I'm not rich enough to buy cheap stuff), and BCM stuff holds value pretty good.

For the LPK, you're talking about the PSA ones, right?

Pallmeto State? oh, yeah, that one. Anyways, so QC is better. What issues did you have with your NFA?
I like NFA because it has a free floating barrel, no fixed front sight and pretty cool handguard. That's about it really


about their uppers, G60, for some reason they dont appeal to me.

[nick]

Here's the NFA upper I have. It had a couple of hiccups (failures to feed) in the first 20 rounds or so, no issues since then, other than with Brown Bear ammo. Not a problem for me, since I only use steel-cased ammo to see, if the upper would eat it, but if you intend to shoot Russian ammo, that's a potential concern.

The BCM upper eats the Russian ammo fine.

[DavidR310]

Would love if you could post some.

How is it? Pretty reliable?

It is my first build so I can't really compare it to anything. I bought it in Dec. And fired it towards the end of Jan. The very first shots had failures to extract. I emailed NFA and they said to bring it back and they will take care of it. So in Feb, I went back to vegas and they fixed it and it has been fine since. I have about 300 rounds out of it using nothing but PMC and Tula and it handles it fine. Just keep it well lubed.

Edit: I plan to build more AR's so it really isn't a big deal to me. If you plan for this to be a SHTF build and will be your only AR, I would go with BCM.

[PandaLuv]

Here's the NFA upper I have. It had a couple of hiccups (failures to feed) in the first 20 rounds or so, no issues since then, other than with Brown Bear ammo. Not a problem for me, since I only use steel-cased ammo to see, if the upper would eat it, but if you intend to shoot Russian ammo, that's a potential concern.

The BCM upper eats the Russian ammo fine.

well, I'm planning to reload, but the fact that NFA can't eat steel cased ammo, it shows that the QC isnt that good. I wonder if more people chime in as well


Thanks for sharing, I really appreciate it. Quick question, which eotech model is it and why is it so far? the rifle looks great