Bear Creek Arsenal

[ar15barrels]

I'm considering obtaining an AR15 type rifle, but I just can't stand the typical rear charging setup. Also think the rear projecting buffer tube is kinda hinky. Since Bear Creek suffers a lot of negative chatter, what are the other makers who offer side charging (preferably with a non-reciprocating handle, added plus if it also operates as a forward assist), and perhaps without the rearward buffer tube? Still interested in economical makes, anything over a kilobuck is a hard sell for me. TIA!

You are describing the CMMG Dissent.

https://cmmg.com/rifle-dissent-mk4-5-56mm-16-1

[RAMCLAP]

It’s a transparent, orchestrated Shill Post. Influencers getting desperate. I mean seriously, Delta Team Tactical, Davidsons Defense, Bear Creek Arsenal? Please. 😂. That’s 💩 crap.

It is human nature to rationalize their crap purchases wit the good 'ol "just as good as". If you've ever taken pistol/carbine classes you've seen your fair share of "just as goods" failing constantly. Get over it.

[RAMCLAP]

I’m sorry. Evidently I went too fast for you.

I should have phrased differently. I now see it looks directed at you. It wasn't. My bad.

[rsrocket1]

Run one through an advanced class and then get back to us. BCA is absolute cheap junk. Yeah you can have a plinking day with it. That's all it's good for.

So you ran an AK-47 through an advanced class?

[mitch1]

BCA's are like Kimbers, Springfields, RIA, etc.
Sometimes you get a bad one, most of the time a good one. All you ever hear about is the bad ones.
I am lucky, all the brands mentioned have been good for me

[RAMCLAP]

So you ran an AK-47 through an advanced class?

Pardon me if this is supposed to be funny. I don't get it. No, I ran a Daniel Defense through all three of my classes. I have since switched to BCM.

[Grendel Guy]

BCA's are like Kimbers, Springfields, RIA, etc.
Sometimes you get a bad one, most of the time a good one. All you ever hear about is the bad ones.
I am lucky, all the brands mentioned have been good for me

Kinda like when you get a lemon vehicle. You swear off the brand and never buy another.

[Reno-Kid]

Kinda like when you get a lemon vehicle. You swear off the brand and never buy another.

Lol. Don't buy a Yugo car made by Zastava, but you can buy a AK47 made by Zastava.

[19K]

I don't think there are many on this site dumb enough to buy Bear Creek.

I bought a 410 bear creek upper because it was the only American made one and had a 3inch chamber (to use for hunting). I sent it back twice because both times it wouldn’t chamber, even when I manually put the round into the chamber. I was well aware of their reputation but it was so cheap lol.

they have since stopped selling it. It does work now, and I can get all 5 rounds fired out of it reliably. I actually managed to get a dove with it last year.

[Switchbarrel]

BCA's:
Sometimes you get a bad one, most of the time a good one. All you ever hear about is the bad ones.

I agree. I've wanted a .17 HM2 upper for quite a while, bought a BCA when they first came out. No issues whatsoever for a round that notoriously has issues in semi-auto's.

Caveat re: myself, I'm no weekend warrior, Rambo wannabe...I do just take mine to the range and plink with it. Shooting for groups.


A co-worker has two. A 6.5 Creedmoor and something else (.450 Bushmaster maybe). He's a true hunter, lives in the sticks, hunts all the time. He thinks they're great, hasn't had any issues either. He's bought a couple for friends too.

I know this isn't related to the 7.62 original question, just sayin' they aren't all bad depending upon your needs.

-Rick

[shooter556]

I don't think there are many on this site dumb enough to buy Bear Creek.

I have a 22WMR upper since nobody else seems to make them. It has run fine so far.

[Sailormilan2]

I have a 22WMR upper since nobody else seems to make them. It has run fine so far.

I also have one. Once I replaced their light buffer with a much heavier one, it runs well. I’m using a buffer about 3 times heavier than the one they supplied. It’s been a very accurate rifle so far.

[recpark99]

I have one of their 358 socom uppers, got it as a range toy mostly, and it has run flawlessly and is very accurate at 100 yds. I wouldn't buy BCA as my prized AR, but for niche purposes, why the hell not.

[vf111]

I also have the 17HMR upper. No issues other than I wish the barrel wasnt a heavy one.
I also have a BCA 308 upper I haven't even mounted on a lower yet but for a range toy that cost less than a nice steak dinner for two in Vegas I'm not worried about it.

[Reno-Kid]

Found this, convert your rear to side charger.

https://youtu.be/C56zqXkQcpA?si=zlUhkzYaLmJ_3Nvp

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