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  • Capybara
    CGSSA Coordinator
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2012
    • 14237

    What is THE fixed mag solution for 2025?

    All of my rifles are featureless for Freedom Week mags but I am assembling an AR pistol so I don't have a choice, has to be mag locked. I bought a Juggernaut Hellfire but its still sitting in the parts bin. Before I assemble, I've been seeing posts about the Patriot Pin, I know there is the other mag lock
    (whose name eludes me) where you have to drill into your receiver, which I am not thrilled about. What say you, especially for an AR pistol? Which mag lock do you have and why is it great? Seems like there are several choices and I've never shot with any of them so I have no idea whih one is the right
    choice. Help me out.
    Last edited by Capybara; 04-08-2025, 9:39 AM.
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    jarhead714
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2012
    • 7060

    Compmag, dude. Cross state line and it takes about 10-15 seconds to be normal and completely featured. Mine functions fine for range use and I love how the spring tension on the follower can be removed to clear a jam, though I haven’t had one yet.

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      Capybara
      CGSSA Coordinator
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2012
      • 14237

      Originally posted by jarhead714
      Compmag, dude. Cross state line and it takes about 10-15 seconds to be normal and completely featured. Mine functions fine for range use and I love how the spring tension on the follower can be removed to clear a jam, though I haven’t had one yet.
      Doesn't that take quite a while to load compared to dropping regular mags with a mag lock system? I've never used one but it seems super awkward, like loading my SKS from the bottom? Guess I need to look at some videos.
      I've seen several users do incredibly fast and smooth mag changes with the other mag lock systems. I never go out of state to shoot my Commifornia neutered guns so not a factor for me.
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        jarhead714
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2012
        • 7060

        Originally posted by Capybara

        Doesn't that take quite a while to load compared to dropping regular mags with a mag lock system? I've never used one but it seems super awkward, like loading my SKS from the bottom? Guess i need to look at some videos.
        I've seen several users do incredibly fat and smooth mag changes with the other mag lock systems. I never go out of state to shoot my Commifornia neutered guns so not a factor for me.
        Oh, it’s completely inadequate for anything other than range use. HAVING SAID THAT, it takes 10-15 seconds to not be completely inadequate for anything but range use. To quote a character from the surprisingly entertaining Minecraft movie I saw with my kids yesterday, “You smell what I’m stepping in?”😉
        Last edited by jarhead714; 04-08-2025, 9:54 AM. Reason: Poor spelling

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          Capybara
          CGSSA Coordinator
          CGN Contributor
          • Feb 2012
          • 14237

          Originally posted by jarhead714

          Oh, it’s completely inadequate for anything other than range use. HAVING SAID THAT, it takes 10-15 seconds to not be completely inadequate for anything but range use. To quote a character from the surpassingly entertaining Minecraft movie I saw with my kids yesterday, “You smell what I’m stepping in?”😉
          Thanks. I'm watching some reviews on YouTube. Seems great if you are shooting precision and if you have to clear double feeds. This is for an AR pistol so I guess I need to think about how I would actually like to train with this gun.
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            jarhead714
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2012
            • 7060

            Originally posted by Capybara

            Thanks. I'm watching some reviews on YouTube. Seems great if you are shooting precision and if you have to clear double feeds. This is for an AR pistol so I guess I need to think about how I would actually like to train with this gun.
            For range use it’s awesome. I had one malfunction in a few hundred rounds and all I did was pull down on the follower and open up the door. Everything just fell down. Let the follower back up and kept on shooting. I use it on my AR pistol as well. The magazine itself is beefy and not unpleasant to look at.

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            • #7
              SigSauerP226
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              CGN Contributor
              • Sep 2007
              • 826

              I had a CompMag for Aero M5 and one for FA CA7 and neither fed well so I ditched them for AR Maglock /Kingpin. Only issue I had with that so far was the Maglock arm was too long and it operated like a standard mag release. I filed the arm down until it didn’t.

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              • #8
                Fnfan
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2018
                • 582

                Compmag easily.

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                • #9
                  enorbit3
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                  • Oct 2011
                  • 2559

                  Bypass California's Assault Weapon Registration with MagLatch! The first and only fixed magazine compliance device to make AR rifles and pistols California ...


                  That's what I use on my far pistol. Works great.
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                  • #10
                    Capybara
                    CGSSA Coordinator
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 14237

                    It's interesting, the demand for maglock systems must be waning. The maglatchusa product above, out of stock. Several of the other solutions, (Patriot Pin, sold out) all out of stock and some looked like they were out of production, company showed OOS and a dozen retailers, OOS.
                    I ended up ordering the Cross Armory safe mag, I liked how all you do is crack the upper (I'll be using the Juggernaut pin) and the magazine falls out. All of these systems look like a compromise and if this doesn't work out, I will likely get the CompMag as it looks the easiest and most straightforward but really slow for reloads.

                    Too bad the tyrants up in Sacramento like to punish us with less safe, stupid solutions just to shoot our legally owned property and the worst part is, NONE of their idiotic laws help anyone, make anyone safer, it's all just BS masquerading their true agenda which is civilian disarmament.
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                    • #11
                      smupser
                      Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 234

                      So many people trash compmag but for range use it’s perfect, and if s.h.t.f. It takes a few seconds to remove. Seems like the biggest oxymoron to modify your rifle will all these parts for compliance yet act like it’s battle ready.

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                      • #12
                        xounlistedxox
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 2190

                        Here's what I've been using:

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                        • #13
                          BrokerB
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 4927

                          I have been using the Patriot pin with armaglock on my 556 pistols. The last Armaglock I used it with the hyperswitch. I dont like ti at all. It lets the top receiver flop completely open, unless you catch it or add another stupid lanyard crap to stop it from opening all the way. I am 100% more a Patriot Pin user with the armaglock.

                          I keep the original mag release in the magpul grip storage just in case I want an original rifle/pistol again. Fairly easy swap. No drilling and mag will drop free.
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                          • #14
                            tacticalcity
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 10673

                            J&R Sports in Livermore, CA carry a convertible maglock. The only one I have seen on the market. Other similar solutions may exist, I just haven't seen anyone advertise this capability. It is a 1 for 1 replacement of your magazine release button and works with your existing magazine release catch. While in California you keep it screwed in far enough that it prevents you from being able to drop the magazine because the device makes contact with the upper receiver as you attempt to press in on it. Outside of California you loosen the device to create space between the device and the upper receiver. You loosen and tighten the device by tilting the upper forward, pressing in on the device until the magazine catch extends beyond the bolt catch and then twisting the magazine catch in either direction. One direction loosens it for outside California use, and the other direction tightens it for inside California use.

                            Some people may wonder why having a convertible option is beneficial. Firstly, it allows you to travel outside California for competitions or training courses and use it like a normal rifle without having to change out and potentially lose a part. Secondly, if California decides to ban these the way they did bullet buttons you will potentially be able to leave the device installed on your rifle and still be able to legally run it like a normal rifle. As many argue is legal to do on their BBRAW rifles with convertible bullet button type devices. That is of course supposition. Lastly, I would argue the ease of installation makes this device a winner. Especially compared to some of the more complicated and difficult to install solutions out there.

                            I don't think the device has a name. According to J&R sports they have an exclusive deal to sell it with the inventor who is apparently a local. I believe they currently charge $50 for it. Give them a call, I am sure they can hook you up. Here is their website: Home - jrguns

                            Here is the best picture I have of it. Sorry that is hard to make out.

                            Last edited by tacticalcity; 04-25-2025, 9:13 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Capybara
                              CGSSA Coordinator
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 14237

                              Installed the Cross Armory Safe Mag yesterday. That was a bust, you are supposed to fine tune the mag dropping versus staying gun with the action closed. I tried to tune it for three hours, no matter how I set the two Allen screws, I could not get the magazine to drop free with action open AND stay in securely with the action closed, it was one or the other. It also varied with military style metal magazines and with plastic PMAGs. It shouldn't be this difficult to comply with the stupid laws here. I took a good hard look at all of the other maglock solutions on the market and they all seem to require customization, filing and tuning in order to work correctly.

                              I ordered a CompMag, thanks Jarhead714, you pushed me to reconsider it. I know that will work and I won't have to spend hours trying to "tune" it or file anything down on my expensive pistol lower. Thanks dickhead Sacramento Commies for making laws that will have zero effect on anything other than making guns less safe and inconveniencing and humiliating owners. That is the true mission of every Commifornia gun law.
                              Last edited by Capybara; 04-26-2025, 12:49 PM.
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