Sig MCX-Regulator, Thoughts?

[socal m1 shooter]

Personally I would get an M1A or a Mini 14

I have a couple M1 Garands and for a time (we're talking 1990s CMP era) my calculus was, why pay for an M1A when a CMP M1 Garand is a fraction of the cost and sometimes bordering on arbitrage? And additional reasons.

Over time, that M1A purchase got put off, and wants change, and so on. For example, I got some food for thought. Friends invited me to try their AR-platform stuff, FN-platform (FN-FAL) and HK-platform stuff. Not long ago in a shop I saw one of those HK 91 clones, caught my interest. But here in California, so much compromise is required unless (at least right now) comb stock.

So, like I said in the OP, I'm curious to see what the CG brain trust has to say. So far this thread has been very helpful.

[Fnfan]

I have a couple M1 Garands and for a time (we're talking 1990s CMP era) my calculus was, why pay for an M1A when a CMP M1 Garand is a fraction of the cost and sometimes bordering on arbitrage? And additional reasons.

Over time, that M1A purchase got put off, and wants change, and so on. For example, I got some food for thought. Friends invited me to try their AR-platform stuff, FN-platform (FN-FAL) and HK-platform stuff. Not long ago in a shop I saw one of those HK 91 clones, caught my interest. But here in California, so much compromise is required unless (at least right now) comb stock.

So, like I said in the OP, I'm curious to see what the CG brain trust has to say. So far this thread has been very helpful.

Because M1 Garands, while nostalgically cool as hell, are a pain in the *** and the M1A offers significantly more ease of use and modularity.

You are also wildly overblowing how much “compromise” it takes to have an AR in CA. You can install a compmag into any AR and keep whatever features you want on the AR and be 100% legal. It takes me all of 2 minutes to remove a compmag to return the AR to “freedom state form” when I go into Nevada.

[walmart_ar15]

If moving away from the new AR Ranch Rifle fad discussion. You probably want to start a new thread if you want to explored the Lego Land world of AR building

Likely u will preferred the featureless route compared to the maglock route. Check out Sparrow Dynamics, Resurgent Arms, Juggernaut Tactical, and personal preference, Thordsen FRS.

With featureless u also open the option of the 308 sized AR platform and all its offering of different calibers.

[PogoJack]

If you can find an SCR lower I’d get that before an Sig MCX. The only thing that sucks about them is putting the bolt rat tail into the buffer cup when reassembling but with practice it becomes easier.

I bought a Mini-14 because the SCRs are not always in stock. I gave mine away when I left CA.

[sigstroker]

What ugly gets you is fast easy reloads, with a normal grip on the rifle.

[socal m1 shooter]

What ugly gets you is fast easy reloads, with a normal grip on the rifle.

Everything involves trade-offs.

A certain chain of gun/hunting/fishing stores had the MCX Regulator on sale earlier this year, 130 of them according to their advertisement, for (I think) $1400 each or thereabouts. I don't like purchasing from them so I don't actively follow their marketing, but between this sale and the promo last fall (buy a Regulator, get a "free" P365) I wonder if these are on the way out of production. I don't find them in stock anywhere I've looked.

I'm on the fence between an M1A and an MCX Regulator. I may get both, but none of my go-to retailers seem to have either in stock at the moment. I'm in no rush, maybe with the looming recession, there could be some decent promos this fall. Last fall Springfield was allowing purchasers to get two magazines and a scope mount with the M1A purchase, and as mentioned Sig was doing the free P365 thing (apparently one could apply the value to a different model if one wanted).

[sigstroker]

Everything involves trade-offs.

A certain chain of gun/hunting/fishing stores had the MCX Regulator on sale earlier this year, 130 of them according to their advertisement, for (I think) $1400 each or thereabouts. I don't like purchasing from them so I don't actively follow their marketing, but between this sale and the promo last fall (buy a Regulator, get a "free" P365) I wonder if these are on the way out of production. I don't find them in stock anywhere I've looked.

I'm on the fence between an M1A and an MCX Regulator. I may get both, but none of my go-to retailers seem to have either in stock at the moment. I'm in no rush, maybe with the looming recession, there could be some decent promos this fall. Last fall Springfield was allowing purchasers to get two magazines and a scope mount with the M1A purchase, and as mentioned Sig was doing the free P365 thing (apparently one could apply the value to a different model if one wanted).

That's weird, those 2 rifles are very different from each other. I can tell you that the M1A is a poor candidate for a scope platform. If you're going to be shooting at long ranges or your eyesight is mediocre, you want a more modern platform than one designed basically in the 1930's.

[Garbcollector]

In case someone else may be interested, here is what I am finding in a nutshell.

Brand	Cost (complete rifle)	Cost (Lower only)	Operation	DI/Piston	Charging	Notes
FM	$1200	< $499	Bufferless	DI	Left side	All in-stock = .223 Wylde, closed ecosystem?
Fightlite	$1300	$699	Buffer tube	Both possible	Left & top possible	Compatible with USGI uppers
CMMG	$1900	$449	Bufferless	DI	Left side	Closed ecosystem?
Sig	$3000	N/A	Bufferless	Piston	Left side	Expen$ive

Regarding Foxtrot Mike, all the complete, in-stock rifles on their site seem to be this .223 Wylde caliber, which I am not interested in. The page for the one lower they have in stock right now plainly states: "Compatible with BRN-180 and our Bufferless Mike-15 Gen 2 upper receivers, available here in our store." I'm guessing that means, it works with our uppers but (probably?) not others. Confirm or deny?

The FightLite can presumably be made to work with any USGI-compatible upper, including side-charging piston-operated, should one happen to choose such as that. I think I am leaning toward side-charging 'cause middle-aged eyes may work more better with optics.

The page for the CMMG lower plainly states "NOTE: Br4 lowers are only designed for use with DISSENT Mk4 Upper Groups." So, again, that means I can't drop my Sig MCX-Regulator upper into that lower and expect it to work?

$3k? For that price I'd rather buy a hk mr556

[socal m1 shooter]

That's weird, those 2 rifles are very different from each other. I can tell you that the M1A is a poor candidate for a scope platform. If you're going to be shooting at long ranges or your eyesight is mediocre, you want a more modern platform than one designed basically in the 1930's.

True that, but the M1A is a long-time want, and it is much better for some kind of optic than an M1. There is still a lot to like about the platform JCG built and refined.

The MCX is also a want, a step in the modern direction, a toe in the water. The piston instead of DI, the side charging, give it a whirl.

[PogoJack]

There are also the socomm and scout squad variants of M1A with the handguard rail. Not ideal but not a terrible place to put a red dot or scout optic. Your mileage may vary.

[socal m1 shooter]

There are also the socomm and scout squad variants of M1A with the handguard rail. Not ideal but not a terrible place to put a red dot or scout optic. Your mileage may vary.

Once upon a time I tried a scout scope arrangement on a lever action. I used one of those Leupold extended eye-relief scopes (for pistols). Like a dumb@ss it never occurred to me that the minuscule objective might not be optimal for low-light conditions. I realized this the hard way when I took the rifle on a pig hunt where seeing in low light conditions was a must. I did remove the scout scope from that rifle, but have yet to rescope it. One of many projects placed on the back burner. One of these days...

Don't be a dumb@ss like me if you go that route. Big objective = good.