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  • Yugo
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2011
    • 8399

    What Is The Difference?


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    Originally posted by WAMO556
    Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

    Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

    Umm yeah!!!!!
  • #2
    UserM4
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 1687

    rifle and carbine?
    While we're here arguing about the latest high tech running shoes, there's some Kenyan out there running barefoot. Guess who's gonna win the marathon?

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    • #3
      anothergunnut
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 1819

      Depends upon what kind of stock you have; you need a carbine buffer for a collapsible stock.
      Check back later for a witty comment.

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      • #4
        Baconator
        Bacon makes it better
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2009
        • 9547

        Originally posted by anothergunnut
        Depends upon what kind of stock you have; you need a carbine buffer for a collapsible stock.
        this

        and the carbine is out of stock!

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        • #5
          Yugo
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2011
          • 8399

          perfect thanks. I need one of each. (I have 1 collapsible and 1 a2 stock)
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          Originally posted by WAMO556
          Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

          Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

          Umm yeah!!!!!

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          • #6
            Dreaded Claymore
            Veteran Member
            • May 2010
            • 3231

            As you may know, when the bolt carrier of an AR-15 moves backwards during the rifle's cycle, it hits the buffer, which, along with the action spring , slows it down and then returns it forward.

            An AR with a collapsible stock has a shorter buffer tube than one with a fixed stock, so there's less room for the buffer when it goes backward. But the bolt carrier needs to travel the same distance regardless. So the buffer in a collapsible stock carbine AR is shorter than one in a rifle with a fixed stock.

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            • #7
              taloft
              Well used Member
              CGN Contributor
              • Sep 2002
              • 2696

              You mean besides the length difference?

              Typically, a rifle buffer will be heavier but, use a weaker spring. A carbine buffer will be lighter but, use a stiffer spring. Then there are the H variances...
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              • #8
                Yugo
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2011
                • 8399

                Originally posted by taloft
                You mean besides the length difference?

                Typically, a rifle buffer will be heavier but, use a weaker spring. A carbine buffer will be lighter but, use a stiffer spring. Then there are the H variances...
                so I will need 2 different springs? longer buffer (a2 stock) light spring and short carbine buffer (collapsible stock) heavier spring right? or will this http://www.midwayusa.com/product/191...ng-ar-15-rifle work for both?
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                Originally posted by WAMO556
                Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

                Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

                Umm yeah!!!!!

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                • #9
                  Chaos47
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 6615

                  Yes you will need 2 different springs the rifle one is longer if I remember correct.

                  Rifle


                  Carbine

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                  • #10
                    Dreaded Claymore
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 3231

                    You won't need two different springs unless you're assembling two different rifles. Does your rifle have a fixed stock, or a collapsible stock? Does it have any stock at all, yet?

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                    • #11
                      Chaos47
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 6615

                      Originally posted by Yugo
                      perfect thanks. I need one of each. (I have 1 collapsible and 1 a2 stock)
                      Originally posted by Dreaded Claymore
                      You won't need two different springs unless you're assembling two different rifles. Does your rifle have a fixed stock, or a collapsible stock? Does it have any stock at all, yet?

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                      • #12
                        89LT1
                        Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 401

                        Thanks for this thread OP, Im a noob to the AR platform and have a similar question

                        so the buffer is only dependent on the type of stock? not the gas system? so if i get two uppers to run on the same lower: one being a shorter barrel carbine gas system for run and gun, and then a longer 24" upper for longer distance shooting with a rifle gas system i would not have to change the buffer?

                        Thanks for the info in advance

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                        • #13
                          CIV Tactical
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 1350

                          Originally posted by 89LT1
                          Thanks for this thread OP, Im a noob to the AR platform and have a similar question

                          so the buffer is only dependent on the type of stock? not the gas system? so if i get two uppers to run on the same lower: one being a shorter barrel carbine gas system for run and gun, and then a longer 24" upper for longer distance shooting with a rifle gas system i would not have to change the buffer?

                          Thanks for the info in advance
                          NO BUFFER CHANGE NEEDED. You can run both uppers on your lower. The rifle or A2 buffer tube will show a slight difference in felt recoil its not the buffer that is dependent but the buffer tube. One is longer to accept the A2 stocks and one is shorter for carbine M4 type collapsible stocks.
                          Last edited by CIV Tactical; 04-25-2012, 8:45 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Yugo
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 8399

                            Originally posted by Chaos47


                            Thanks guys. I also asked this in another thread its a little off topic, is a Maglock the same thing as a Bullet Button?
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                            Originally posted by WAMO556
                            Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

                            Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

                            Umm yeah!!!!!

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                            • #15
                              Yugo
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 8399

                              Originally posted by 89LT1
                              Thanks for this thread OP, Im a noob to the AR platform and have a similar question

                              so the buffer is only dependent on the type of stock? not the gas system? so if i get two uppers to run on the same lower: one being a shorter barrel carbine gas system for run and gun, and then a longer 24" upper for longer distance shooting with a rifle gas system i would not have to change the buffer?

                              Thanks for the info in advance
                              I was also planning to do this when I bought my first lower a year ago, I told my self I will buy two uppers and switch if you can save up for a second lower just makes things easier IMO. Good luck with the build.
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                              Originally posted by WAMO556
                              Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

                              Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

                              Umm yeah!!!!!

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