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  • Doctawho
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 1847

    How to change zero from 25 yards to 100 yards

    I've zeroed my AR-15 at my local indoor range @ 25 yards. Is there an easy way to just make a few clicks of adjustment and get pretty close to my zero for 100 yards?

    Ive got a standard AR flat top with a VX-3 1.5-5 in an American Defense QD mount.
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    Prc329
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2006
    • 5603

    Chrono the ammo your gonna use and get a ballistics app. Put in you zeroed at 25 yards and it should give you your dope to what ever distance you like.
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    • #3
      NiteQwill
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2007
      • 6368

      Why don't you zero at 50 since the trajectory will remain the same to 250? There really isn't any reason to zero to 100 unless you're shooting at that distance consistently (CMP matches, etc.).

      The only way to zero at 100 is to actually do it. Unless you have a standard A2 rear sight.

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      • #4
        Doctawho
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 1847

        My calculator says 3.0 inches. Is that 3 inches up or down? I'm freaking confused.


        Originally posted by Prc329
        Chrono the ammo your gonna use and get a ballistics app. Put in you zeroed at 25 yards and it should give you your dope to what ever distance you like.

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        • #5
          Sosoomi
          Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 430

          Actually it depends on a number of factors... Elevation, humidity, ammo... I use Nikon's Spot On app on my iPhone and iPad.... amazing little program...

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          • #6
            coy80176
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 1917

            think of the arch of the bullet's trajectory....

            As one of the others already stated, the POI at 50 is the same at 250 (which are the "left and right sides of the arch") and at 100 yds you're on the top of the arch...

            if you are zeroed at 25 yds, then at 100 yds the POI will be 3" high....so adjust your scope elevation to "bring it down"

            check out this vid, he zeros for 300 yds, by shooting at 100 yds and hitting 3.5" above the bullseye:


            If i'm wrong, cuz I could be...I've been drinking, I'm sure the others will keep me honest

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            • #7
              Dark Mod
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 4284

              You should probably just zero it at 100 yards

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              • #8
                ExtremeX
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2010
                • 7160

                I do this with almost every rifle I own since all I have is a 25 yard range near me... Zero for 100 (or whatever) at a 25 yard range, and I'm pretty much dead on at 100. Few times I didn't even need to fine tune it at 100.

                First off, get or make a drop chart based off ur rifle, ammo, sight height, all that jazz.

                Set the drop chart to a 100 yard zero. At 25 yards you should be shooting low (how low depends on your setup). With a 3" sight height im usually about -1.3 to -1.5" low at 25 yards.

                Get a ruler, or make your own targets... shoot at center until your POI meets your drop for 25 yards with a 100 yard zero.

                Done

                Assuming you don't screw this up, its worked every time for me.
                Last edited by ExtremeX; 04-14-2012, 11:28 PM.
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                • #9
                  MrOrange
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 2262

                  Originally posted by NiteQwill
                  Why don't you zero at 50 since the trajectory will remain the same to 250? There really isn't any reason to zero to 100 unless you're shooting at that distance consistently (CMP matches, etc.).

                  The only way to zero at 100 is to actually do it. Unless you have a standard A2 rear sight.
                  Is that the deal for carbines? When I was in we zeroed our A1s at 25m, and were told the next cross over was at 250. This was with the 55g stuff.

                  Interesting tidbit: When I first zeroed my .308 bolt gun I shot at 25 yards to make sure it wasn't wildly off, and that turned out to be right on at 100.
                  I meant, it is my opinion that...






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                  • #10
                    ExtremeX
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 7160

                    Originally posted by MrOrange
                    Is that the deal for carbines? When I was in we zeroed our A1s at 25m, and were told the next cross over was at 250. This was with the 55g stuff.

                    Interesting tidbit: When I first zeroed my .308 bolt gun I shot at 25 yards to make sure it wasn't wildly off, and that turned out to be right on at 100.
                    I posted this in another thread but ill post it again.

                    What you are referring to is called the improved battlesight zero... popular with the RDS crowd.

                    Its actually closer to 50/200 yard crossover. Depending on the load and sight height they should meet around there.

                    The whole point of this is it give the round a reasonably flat trajectory across a realistic usable range. If you are shooting a man sized target, couple inches in either direction isn't going to be a big deal across the CQB to 300 yard range. If you are shooting soda cans improved battlesight zero might not be for you. It depends on the optic and application, but I still use it for all my red dots.

                    If you are a precision shooter, its a different story. I prefer to dial in correction since Im more of a target shooter.
                    Last edited by ExtremeX; 04-15-2012, 12:16 AM.
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                    • #11
                      Speedpower
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 2238

                      This should help!!!

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                      • #12
                        Saym14
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 7892

                        zerofor 50 yds is the best IMO

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                        • #13
                          smittty
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 6247

                          I agree with the others that say to USE A 50 YARD ZERO

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