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  • #16
    ReddingShooter
    Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 331

    nope, and unless they changed the laws in california, it isnt illegal to own a complete M16 lower parts kit, including the auto sear as without an M16 lower receiver or a highly modified AR-15 lower receiver, the lower parts it is nothing more than a conversation piece.

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    • #17
      Wnick308
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 844

      Wow, 4 year old thread.

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      • #18
        dvs762
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 1790

        any M16 lower parts can be easily converted to semi auto with a dremel or a grinder..toss the auto sear if it ships with one..even the selector switch can be used if you grind down the center part that activates the tail of the disconnector. just chop the tail off the disconnector and the notch off the back of the hammer..but so far Ive never received the auto sear with a 16 lower kit...
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        • #19
          TurboChrisB
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2010
          • 5116

          Guys, for clarification. The sear that comes with a M16 lower parts kit is NOT a drop in auto sear.....the sear that comes with the M16 lower parts kit requires drilling a 3rd hole into your lower receiver and THAT would be a felony (drilling the hole) and without drilling that hole you cannot make it function as a select fire rifle.

          Unless you procure a drop in auto sear.

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          • #20
            Cheezle56
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 938

            Way to necro post
            If you need help with any stragglers, call a friend, because it's likely that they have a gun. America in particular have done exceptionally well taking care of the problem, as there are 1.12 guns for every 1 American citizen. So throw a rock, you'll probably hit a gun, pick up that gun, then shoot a zombie.

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            • #21
              Bobby Ricigliano
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              • Feb 2011
              • 17438

              Pew = OK

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              • #22
                sovereign2b
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 711

                Originally posted by Cheezle56
                Way to necro post
                Yet, you did.

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                • #23
                  sovereign2b
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 711

                  Originally posted by Wnick308
                  Wow, 4 year old thread.

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                  I got sucked in by the title, too.

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                  • #24
                    ReddingShooter
                    Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 331

                    OK...just some FYI..

                    i just spend the last 20 minutes on the phone with 'Derick" at the California Department Of Justice Firearms Division ( 1-916-227-7527 ) on the issue of owning and possessing M16 lower parts kits in California

                    he said :

                    drop in auto sear (DIAS) =NO
                    lightning link = NO
                    M16 lower receiver = NO
                    M16 lower parts kit = YES

                    he said that without extensive modification to the lower receiver of an AR-15 , M16 parts will not fiT, and can not be used to "convert" and AR-15 into a fully automatic machine gun, and he said that the penal code section covering this specifically states "converting", not manufacturing, and he said with the extensive machining needed to make an M16 lower from an AR-15 lower, that that would be classified as manufacturing.

                    so YES, in the state of california, it is LEGAL to own and M16 lower parts kit AND an AR rifle at the same time, but DONT mill or drill an AR lower to accept it or its your ***!

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                    • #25
                      superhondaz50
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 2987

                      Constructive possession still applies at a federal level, please keep that in mind.
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                      A lot of time and energy goes into thinking up ways to make perfectly good rifles into something dumb. Single shot ARs are gay. AR pistols are also gay. Just my opinion, of course, but a single shot AR pistol would be an AIDS cannon.

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                      • #26
                        gunsmithcats
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 1382

                        Nice to know, but unless you get a letter in writing it won't cover you in court.

                        Originally posted by ReddingShooter
                        OK...just some FYI..

                        i just spend the last 20 minutes on the phone with 'Derick" at the California Department Of Justice Firearms Division ( 1-916-227-7527 ) on the issue of owning and possessing M16 lower parts kits in California

                        he said :

                        drop in auto sear (DIAS) =NO
                        lightning link = NO
                        M16 lower receiver = NO
                        M16 lower parts kit = YES

                        he said that without extensive modification to the lower receiver of an AR-15 , M16 parts will not fiT, and can not be used to "convert" and AR-15 into a fully automatic machine gun, and he said that the penal code section covering this specifically states "converting", not manufacturing, and he said with the extensive machining needed to make an M16 lower from an AR-15 lower, that that would be classified as manufacturing.

                        so YES, in the state of california, it is LEGAL to own and M16 lower parts kit AND an AR rifle at the same time, but DONT mill or drill an AR lower to accept it or its your ***!
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                        • #27
                          audiophil2
                          Senior Member
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8736

                          Originally posted by ReddingShooter
                          OK...just some FYI..

                          i just spend the last 20 minutes on the phone with 'Derick" at the California Department Of Justice Firearms Division ( 1-916-227-7527 ) on the issue of owning and possessing M16 lower parts kits in California

                          he said :

                          drop in auto sear (DIAS) =NO
                          lightning link = NO
                          M16 lower receiver = NO
                          M16 lower parts kit = YES

                          he said that without extensive modification to the lower receiver of an AR-15 , M16 parts will not fiT, and can not be used to "convert" and AR-15 into a fully automatic machine gun, and he said that the penal code section covering this specifically states "converting", not manufacturing, and he said with the extensive machining needed to make an M16 lower from an AR-15 lower, that that would be classified as manufacturing.

                          so YES, in the state of california, it is LEGAL to own and M16 lower parts kit AND an AR rifle at the same time, but DONT mill or drill an AR lower to accept it or its your ***!
                          Some lowers just need the sear holes drilled. Some need the shelf lowered. Some need the shelf lowered and milled back. Some need extensive milling like colt. I have lowers here that can fit all the full auto parts and a drop in sear with no cutting at all.
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                          • #28
                            dok
                            Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 331

                            Careful it will fire full auto without the sear-slam fire and can do so on an out of battery bolt taking with it human digits ,eyes etc the sear ,drop in or otherwise is a safety feature assuring bolt is in battery.If you want to shoot full auto join a pd,military or rent one at front sight.Parts kits are on sale all the time for 40 bucks with ar semiauto parts.

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                            • #29
                              russ69
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 9348

                              Originally posted by dok
                              Careful it will fire full auto without the sear-slam fire and can do so on an out of battery bolt taking with it human digits ,eyes etc the sear ,drop in or otherwise is a safety feature assuring bolt is in battery...
                              The cam pin prohibits the firing pin from protruding unless the bolt is cammed into battery. The disconector prohibits the hammer from following the bolt unless held back by the auto sear. The simple trigger reset test will show any problems after installing new trigger parts so things don't go wrong when shooting. Slam fires are very rare in the AR15 and out of battery firing is extremely rare.
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                              • #30
                                dok
                                Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 331

                                Originally posted by russ69
                                The cam pin prohibits the firing pin from protruding unless the bolt is cammed into battery. The disconector prohibits the hammer from following the bolt unless held back by the auto sear. The simple trigger reset test will show any problems after installing new trigger parts so things don't go wrong when shooting. Slam fires are very rare in the AR15 and out of battery firing is extremely rare.
                                Full auto selector holds down the full auto disconnector and the hammer follows the bolt.With no sear to delay the hammer until the bolt goes into battery premature ignition can and will occur.Not every time but will happen at some point.Facial prosthetics are neither convienient nor cheap.I will not post again but i am sure the info is avaliable on the net.

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