effective range of an AR VS AK-47

[FMJBT]

I can honstly say that I've never fired an AK at long range. Seems like kind of a waste of time given the limitations of the design and ammunition. I would assume that a milled receiver version would be more accurate than a stamped version, but even so the milled receiver variants still exhibit substantial barrel and receiver flex when fired. Optic mounting on the AK platform never seems to be especially rugged either and normally comes at the cost of horrible ergonomics. The list of liabilities for long range performance on the AK is pretty long.

In contrast, the AR design lends itself pretty well to long range shooting, especially when using heavier ammunition like the 77 grain MK262. The standard Lake City M855 is no slouch either. From personal experience I know that a 20" barrel with 1-8 twist will push the 62 grain M855 out to at least 800 yards with surprising accuracy. I've hit a one gallon water jug 7 out of 10 shots at 780 yards using a 20" Sabre Defense upper. An extra 20 yards would not be much of a strech I think. The things you learn at the end of the day when all your hand loaded "Gucci" ammo has been used up and you still feel like shooting. "Screw it, lets shoot the 855 and see what happens...."

I think it says a lot that when the Russians wanted a Designated Marksman Rifle, they went with the larger and more capable 7.62X54R chambered Dragunov rifle. The U.S. has multiple variants of the M-16 filling essentially the same role with the Army SDM-R, Marine SAM-R and Navy SPR.

[HBrebel]

Really depends on the shooter too. side by side on a bench the AR is more accurate, but the AK has more muscle. Lots of marines are frustrated by the lack of stopping power of the 5.56. The AK is a much older gun though, came out in the 50s. The M16 came out during vietnam and underwent a long period of working out the bugs. Ak can be hidden in behind your washer and dryer until armageddon and will still work. The AR, not so much.

[1911ZENSHOOTER]

Why cant people just shoot their rifles and be happy and don't feel the need to compare which is better????

ditto

[pyro3k2]

HOLY **** PEOPLE can the mods please, please, please, please, just make an AR vs AK stickie in big bold letters. It even has the potential to double up as the SHTF thread. If this happens you will see CGN contributor next to my handle for sure!

[bubbagump]

I'll leave this here.

[battleship]

Dudes shooting at a a vehicle at what appears to be less than a hundred yards how could they miss.

[m98]

^^^Ak is capable of 12" or less groups at a 100. Now push it out 400m and see what the hit ratio turns out to.

[bubbagump]

^^^Ak is capable of 12" or less groups at a 100. Now push it out 400m and see what the hit ratio turns out to.

The biggest factor is the shooter.