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  • #31
    jokat989
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 574

    to stop your hand from moving out of position

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    • #32
      Javi
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 4540

      Hmm. I'm guessing from rapid fire?

      I've never used a vertical foregrip but I don't like them haha. Don't like that every DD I see in Turner's holiday flyer come with one. I wouldn't mine trying it out on someone's rifle but I won't buy one, I don't see the need to for myself . Hand stop: I'd get that for an AR-15 pistol.
      Originally posted by d4v0s
      My girlfriend and i used froglube last night in a pinch and it works great.
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      • #33
        socal-shooter
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 1521

        vfg = good little stash spot for batteries, allen key, bullet button tool etc

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        • #34
          shooting4life
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2009
          • 5768

          So your pictures on the Internet are cooler.

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          • #35
            negolien
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 4829

            It's actually a differant shooting technique.... Look at a majority of comp shooters and even combat situations.... The Thumb over hold has become quite popular... and does allow for freedom of right arm manipulation quite nicely. Fast CQB work in tight situations allows the VFG to be to good use imho.
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            • #36
              Merc1138
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
              • 19742

              Originally posted by Javi
              Hmm. I'm guessing from rapid fire?

              I've never used a vertical foregrip but I don't like them haha. Don't like that every DD I see in Turner's holiday flyer come with one. I wouldn't mine trying it out on someone's rifle but I won't buy one, I don't see the need to for myself . Hand stop: I'd get that for an AR-15 pistol.
              No...

              It's so your hand doesn't change position. Maintaining the same position is being consistent. A rear handstop usually involves rear-ward pressure pulling the gun into your shoulder. A forward handstop would be in front of your hand. Either way, your hand is always going to be in the same spot.

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              • #37
                Javi
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 4540

                That's kind of what I was getting at with rapid fire, that your hand position could change from shooting faster. Or do you mean when you mount the rifle, that your hand is in the spot you want it in every time? Doesn't sound like something I'd need, at the moment.
                Originally posted by d4v0s
                My girlfriend and i used froglube last night in a pinch and it works great.
                R.I.P. Thomas C.

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                • #38
                  TXDARKHORSE361
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 67

                  Like everyone has said it is all on personal preference and that is always subject to change, I've usually rocked some kind of fore grip or grip pod on my military issued rifle and personal AR's, I was pretty fond of the plain nothing special VFG but I never held onto it as a lot of people do, basically used it as a backstop for my hand while using the thumb over barrel technique but after trying out the Magpul AFG I was sold and that's what I currently use.

                  ran this setup for awhile


                  Eventually switched to this setup


                  I like switching between the magwell and the handguards so that's why I like this setup, The Mako Group makes a pretty cool product that acts as a magwell funnel/grip that just bolts on real easy which is what I have on the magwell in the second picture, they have them for $25.50 on their website, http://www.themakogroup.com/product_p/mwg.htm

                  But like everyone has said there are thousands of aftermarket products out there for the AR and there's always gonna be something you like better down the road.
                  Last edited by TXDARKHORSE361; 12-04-2011, 3:35 AM.



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                  • #39
                    Huge Grant
                    Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 225

                    I run a VFG (grippod) *and* AFG on my AR, cuz I can't decide which I like best right now. (One side effect is my carbine looks frickin cool!) Generally, I find the VFG more natural for CQ/swinging between short distance targets. For longer distances... say, shooting an 8-inch steel plate from 100+ yds standing... I find the AFG allows for greater accuracy. To each his own.
                    Originally posted by thud916
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                    • #40
                      Merc1138
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 19742

                      Originally posted by Javi
                      That's kind of what I was getting at with rapid fire, that your hand position could change from shooting faster. Or do you mean when you mount the rifle, that your hand is in the spot you want it in every time? Doesn't sound like something I'd need, at the moment.
                      If your hand position is changing from muzzle flip and recoil, you need to stop grabbing things like a wuss.

                      Yes, you can use a handstop to pull it tighter into your shoulder to help control it. The consistency when picking the thing up matters. If your hands are always in the same spot, and the stock is in the same spot on your shoulder, the recoil and muzzle flip should always be the same, swinging it should always feel the same, the weight balance will always feel the same.

                      The AFG basically acts as a rear or forward hand stop, just at an angle.

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                      • #41
                        FatalKitty
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 2942

                        Originally posted by Javi
                        That's kind of what I was getting at with rapid fire, that your hand position could change from shooting faster. Or do you mean when you mount the rifle, that your hand is in the spot you want it in every time? Doesn't sound like something I'd need, at the moment.
                        Never considered this purpose but it's a sound one!
                        I for one just put my index finger wrapped over the front "stop" on my MOE (rifle length) This allows consistent hand placement and some reward pressure, as well as enough room to break my thumb over the top of the bore for control, that and my hand is in a stable position to hold the rifle if I lower it and switch so secondary.
                        you don't rise to the occasion,
                        you just fall back on your level of training.

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                        • #42
                          ryno066
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 1274

                          Im not a big fan of the AFGs. just got one and it forces my elbow to an awkward angle to hold the grip right.

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                          • #43
                            donw
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 1754

                            i, personally, prefer the standard grip...the VFG gets in the way for my preferred style of shooting.*

                            i am going to try the AFG soon, though...it seems to be "More my style"

                            *i was trained in the classic military shooting positions by u.s. army infantry, and i like/prefer to use a supported position any time i can. but...i can also see where a VFG would be advantageous in a dynamic entry situation...

                            it's six to one, half-a-dozen to another...
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