I really don't think the 1/9 barrel wil stabilize 75+ grain .223 very well
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Remington 700 5-R worth it?
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If you are thinking about a "do it all" rifle, the 5R is not what you want. It is a semi-heavy gun due to the heavy barrel profile. I had a Remington 700 XCR in 7MM MAG that was about 1/2 the weight of the 5R and that was good for 1000+ yds. (about 1.5MOA) and great for hunting. Just my .02.
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Any more pics of the rifles that shot these incredible groups, plus tips on breaking them in (caliber specific?)
I want a heavier gun+stock, thats why I like the 5-R. Also it being designed for the military means semi-surplus parts ammo accessories etc are plentiful and usually cheap (function not always considered a priority)
Only reason I wanted it in .223 was if it can shoot green tip 5.56 so I can train my brother and friends to shoot, cant do reloads/handloads in my current living situation (Barracks...). Plus easy access to 5.56!!!
Still have not emailed Remmy that question, Ill do it tomorrow.Comment
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It will cost a minimum of $1950 to build your own on a Savage action, a bit more on a Remington 700 platform. I'm right in the process of doing it now, the new bare Remington action cost $430, action modifications (bush firing pin, double sleeve bolt, double pinned recoil lug, face bolt and match lugs) $422, Pac-Nor Remington barrel with nut, muzzle brake $500, Jewel trigger $225, Bell & Carlson Medalist M-40 stock $285, bottom metal, magazine, msc. parts $139 = $2,001
So the factory 5R is a good bargain at $1000. Obermeyer's 5R pattern rifling is available from Kreiger now, and is said to offer less bullet deformation and higher velocity read here: https://www.snipershide.com/forum/ub...Number=1583618 and here
https://www.kriegerbarrels.com/5_R_R...246-wp6676.htm. I have a Pac-Nor polygonal rifled barrel where the transformations are more radiused. In .223 Remington 1:9" twist this barrel has grouped 10 shots into .206" at 100 yards with a 40 grain Nosler BT Lead Free bullet (lead free need a faster twist) at 3,300 fps. Both polygonal and 5R clean up faster.
If you want something special from Remington's Custom Shop, call them - my hunting friend has them make up rifles for him on occasion and he spends quite a lot of phone time working out the details.Last edited by Wrangler John; 11-18-2011, 2:25 AM.Comment
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The 5r is really easy to shoot. With the weight it has, the recoil is really not much at all. I would put it on par with my 308 ar honestly. Training to shoot shouldn't be an issue with it. Just keep the noobs from scoping themselves. 556 can be extremely accurate but I personally believe it belongs in carbines or service weapons. Precision rifles really shine at reaching out AND hitting hard. If you are limiting yourself to a 223/556, you will not be reaping the whole bennifit of a bolt gun. Again, this is just my personal opinion. Take it with a grain of salt but I rather sway you from possibly having buyers remourse as a few of my friend's have had. 308 ammo is a bit more expensive but with a bolt gun, you typically are spending some time between each shot and getting your breathing down. Match ammo for either 223 or 308 is going to be expensive if you really want to see what your rifle can do so there isn't much cost savings there. If you are strictly going to shoot surplus ammo, you might as well stick to a carbine because you will never see the true potential of the bolt gun. Yes it will be more accurate than an autoloader but it is almost novelty at that rate. Again, this is just my 2 cents.
KevinLast edited by Sicarius; 11-18-2011, 11:40 AM.Comment
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For about $1000 you can have the 5-R in either .223 or .308 with a few different barrel lengths.
I have the 308 in 24", and it's a beautiful gun.. but @SuperSpy, this is not a light gun.
Is there really any advantage of this barrel vs similarly priced R700's or is it just tacti-cool?
You might want to do some searches on forums dedicated to this type of bolt action rifle where you will find a rich field of information. E.g. snipershide, and the like.Comment
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Take a step up from the Remmy and look at the T/C Icon Precision hunter model it's also got the 5-R if you dont like the laminated stock you could always get it Hydro dipped.
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Take a step up from the Remmy and look at the T/C Icon Precision hunter model it's also got the 5-R if you dont like the laminated stock you could always get it Hydro dipped.
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I'm actually in the same boat as you. I think I'm going the Rem 700 SPS Stainless Route.
1. I still get the stainless action
2. I get the jeweled bolt
3. I get a stainless barrel and most Rem 700's are at least 1 MOA if not better.
I plan on doing the following regardless if I get the 5R or a standard SPS Stainless
1. Timney Trigger, don't like the X Mark Pro triggers have them on my SPS Tactical's and
not to my liking. $150.00
2. Replace the Stock with a Bell & Carlson Tactical Medalist A5 $450.00
So if i go the 5R route
$1000.00 for rifle
$150.00 for trigger
$450.00 for stock
Total $1600.00 and I have the nicer 5R barrel
If I go the SPS Stainless route
$600 for rifle
$150.00 for trigger
$450.00 for Stock
Total $1200.00 and if the barrel doesn't work out then it's off for a recrown or replacement.
I really don't see any real advantage at least for me in the end. The only thing that will separate the 2 rifles at the end of the day is the 5R gets you a nice barrel from the get go. I'm not sure if the action has any special work compared to standard Remington SPS rifles so maybe someone else can chime in. So even if I spend $400.00 for the nicer barrel it really is a wash between the 2. I'm not a true bench rest guy so as long as I can blast the twist caps off a water bottle a 100 yards then I'm happy.
Good luck and please post some pics if you get the 5R.
Oh and my Remington 700 SPS Tactical is more than adequate in regards to accuracy for my personal needs, I just really want a stainless Remington 700 Rifles.Last edited by djslik; 11-18-2011, 5:37 PM.-DJComment
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I'm actually in the same boat as you. I think I'm going the Rem 700 SPS Stainless Route.
1. I still get the stainless action
2. I get the jeweled bolt
3. I get a stainless barrel and most Rem 700's are at least 1 MOA if not better.
I plan on doing the following regardless if I get the 5R or a standard SPS Stainless
1. Timney Trigger, don't like the X Mark Pro triggers have them on my SPS Tactical's and
not to my liking. $150.00
2. Replace the Stock with a Bell & Carlson Tactical Medalist A5 $450.00
So if i go the 5R route
$1000.00 for rifle
$150.00 for trigger
$450.00 for stock
Total $1600.00 and I have the nicer 5R barrel
If I go the SPS Stainless route
$600 for rifle
$150.00 for trigger
$450.00 for Stock
Total $1200.00 and if the barrel doesn't work out then it's off for a recrown or replacement.
I really don't see any real advantage at least for me in the end. The only thing that will separate the 2 rifles at the end of the day is the 5R gets you a nice barrel from the get go. I'm not sure if the action has any special work compared to standard Remington SPS rifles so maybe someone else can chime in. So even if I spend $400.00 for the nicer barrel it really is a wash between the 2. I'm not a true bench rest guy so as long as I can blast the twist caps off a water bottle a 100 yards then I'm happy.
Good luck and please post some pics if you get the 5R.
Oh and my Remington 700 SPS Tactical is more than adequate in regards to accuracy for my personal needs, I just really want a stainless Remington 700 Rifles.
You can sell the HS precision stock for $200 to $250 all day long.....I would try the stock that comes with it before discounting it...I am beyond happy with it.Colt Factory Trained AR15/M16 Armorer
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Check out the 700 FED, thats what I want to do with mine...Comment
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It is simply following a "trend" before even knowing what one is doing. Those H-S police stocks are purpose-built and were selected by Remington for this very special rifle. The only thing I "added" to that stock was a strap-on cheek pad and I'm GTG. Some may need to add a little length to the LOP with a slip-on butt pad as well (although I am 6'04" and have long arms & big hands, and I didn't need to, so I doubt the LOP is really an issue for most). Switching out the stock on this rifle before ever even firing it (most buy the second stock before even RECEIVING their gun!) is a ridiculous waste of money, IMO. Still, some will always follow trends no matter what.
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