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  • msand951
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 735

    PSA upper decision



    I want to upgrade from my 16" DPMS to one of these . But I cant make up my mind hope you understand why im asking dumb newb questions . Just want to make the best purchase for my budget 400-500.

    Uppers I wish I could compare to, or get as close to Colt, DD, BCM as far as dependability, durability , accuracy, and military grade possible.
    Ive been researching the barrel steel PSA offers 2 different kinds , hammerforged or 4150 cmv.
    Which metal should I go with?

    Also I need to make up my mind in barrel size . I like my 16in , but im thinking of a 20 in barrel.

    What I want to do with my rifle . Mostly target shoot, Irons sights and probably mount a scope when I want to do some distance shooting. Then maybe a Red dot when I feel like being a ninja. Im going to keep it featureless .
  • #2
    Nathan Krynn
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 2107

    hammer forged is not a metal type but the method to make the barrel. They are both 4150cmv I believe, just the one that doesn't say hammer forged is a cut barrel.

    Honestly I'd just get a 16" unless you really want the 20".
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    • #3
      Peter.Steele
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2010
      • 7351

      Originally posted by Nathan Krynn
      hammer forged is not a metal type but the method to make the barrel. They are both 4150cmv I believe, just the one that doesn't say hammer forged is a cut barrel.

      Honestly I'd just get a 16" unless you really want the 20".


      PSA does 4140, 4150 and 4150 CHF.

      The standard 4140 and 4150 barrels are button rifled though, not cut.
      Last edited by Peter.Steele; 11-15-2011, 9:01 PM.
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      • #4
        msand951
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 735

        I just sold my upper a hour ago.
        Which is better Im guessing the hammer forged since its 100 $$ more. How are they compared to colt. Is it close. I know any of those would be better than the dpms I sold.

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        • #5
          Agent Tikki
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 1217

          Hammer forged is better for a combat / high round count type application, stainless for precision.

          Did you have any issues w your last upper?
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          Assumption is the Mother of All ****Ups. Speaking of ****ups, where the Hell are all my packages

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          • #6
            RuggedJay
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 1264

            Get the midlength 16" upper then have the barrel cut to 14.5 and perm attach a muzzlebrake/compensator. Between hammer forged or not, i dont think youll ever be able to tell the difference. I Think milspec M4s are just standard 4150 cmv steel. Its good enough for professionals. Doubt you will put it through more abuse than they do.

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            • #7
              Bellehood
              Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 187

              Originally posted by msand951
              http://www.palmettostatearmory.com/a...ete-uppers.php

              I want to upgrade from my 16" DPMS to one of these . But I cant make up my mind hope you understand why im asking dumb newb questions . Just want to make the best purchase for my budget 400-500.

              Uppers I wish I could compare to, or get as close to Colt, DD, BCM as far as dependability, durability , accuracy, and military grade possible.
              Ive been researching the barrel steel PSA offers 2 different kinds , hammerforged or 4150 cmv.
              Which metal should I go with?

              Also I need to make up my mind in barrel size . I like my 16in , but im thinking of a 20 in barrel.

              What I want to do with my rifle . Mostly target shoot, Irons sights and probably mount a scope when I want to do some distance shooting. Then maybe a Red dot when I feel like being a ninja. Im going to keep it featureless .
              Before you spend money on a new upper, is there something specifically wrong with your current upper? If you are upgrading, just in hopes of increasing performance, accuracy, reliability, then I don't believe the PSA will have a drastic increase in any of those categories.

              If your current upper is broken, malfunctioning, or you are switching to a totally different style, go for it. I would suggest the more expensive, hammer forged barrel, over stainless.
              Jobs I have had, payed for by your tax dollars:
              -Sandbag-filler who carries around a 203
              -Sandbag-filler who carries around a 249
              -Sandbag-filler who carries around a radio
              -That guy, who when given a single, normal M4, hides in the Bradley, and sleeps.

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              • #8
                RuggedJay
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 1264

                ^^^what he said. What does "upgrade" mean to you?

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                • #9
                  FourLoko
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 2426

                  doesn't matter, he sold it already

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                  • #10
                    msand951
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 735

                    Thanks for the info guys. Upgrade means to get better quality AR . The dpms upper was my first. The dpms worked great. But I saw the PSA deals and had a chance to sell my upper and I went for it. It was a impulse sell but I want to be a little wiser on my purchase. I go to Camp Pendleton every 2 months . And I really like the colts Ive seen . So I want something as good. And also to be honest when I go shooting with my in laws and his buddy I have the cheapest rifle . They have a stag 16in. and a 18in BCM stainless. We shoot with Irons sights. So maybe I can get the advantage by getting the 20 in. We will eventually work up to scopes and I want to shoot 300 to 500 meters.
                    I was able to out shoot them with my dpms.

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                    • #11
                      FatalKitty
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2942

                      the best upgrade for your gun is more ammo
                      you don't rise to the occasion,
                      you just fall back on your level of training.

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                      • #12
                        msand951
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 735

                        This is what I had in mind


                        2nd Pick same price

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                        • #13
                          msand951
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 735

                          Originally posted by FatalKitty
                          the best upgrade for your gun is more ammo

                          Yup ammo is always good . I agree with that one.

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                          • #14
                            IPSICK
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 4259

                            They're sold out right now but I'd look to get the PSA upper with the 20" FN Stainless Steel hammer forged barrel and Midwest Industries free float handguard.

                            If you end up preferring a 16" they did have a 16" stainless steel .223 Wylde upper with Midwest Industries free float. This is sold out for now as well.
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                            • #15
                              smittty
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 6254

                              Originally posted by msand951
                              What about this one, http://www.palmettostatearmory.com/2537.php

                              or this one, http://www.palmettostatearmory.com/2545.php

                              I have their 16" mid-length but I probably should have got the 14.7" with pinned flash hider and I also really like their 16" Dissipator.

                              Tough choice. Good luck!
                              Last edited by smittty; 11-16-2011, 1:03 AM.

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