midlength vs. rifle length, 6.8 upper advice

[send it_hit]

so im getting ready to go ahead and purchase my first upper from bison armory. i'm looking at the 16" midlength forearm vs the rifle length forearm. from my brief research the only benefit of a rifle length is more rails for more things... i don't plan to put much of anything on it, maybe an AFG at most.

which do you guys prefer? why?

other than that, my questions about the upper are based on me not having experience. there are several choices on the site (http://bisonarmory.com/store_1618_mid.htm), most of which cost a little more money. is there any reason to go with some of these over the "stock" items it comes with? i will probably be giving them a call to order tomorrow...

right now i have my potential purchase as follows:

barrel: 16" recon
finish: bead blast (add $20)
upper reciever: YHM forged
forearm: YHM lightweight quad rail
gas block/front sight: YHM low profile
muzzle device: PWS FSC30 (add $85)
Bolt: none
Bolt Carrier: none
CH: none

I realize I need the BCG (obviously) but as you my have read in my other threads, money is tight and I can only do so much. I'll be checkin in on the 6.8 Forums to see what people think, but I like getting CG insight too.

[send it_hit]

bump for info?

[951temec]

bump for info?

not an upper expert by any means, but that upper is $500 + the $185 you optioned out correct?

you can go to smartgunner and get a daniel defense upper for $409 shipped

or

you can get a bravo company government profile upper for $399.99+$14 shipped

IIRC 1:11 twist is what they used back in the 80's, from what i hear most people run 1:7 twist with the occasional 1:9 on the non chrome lined cheaper uppers

again im not an expert, just passing on some money saving ideas i found before i decided on getting one used

[jgraham15]

not an upper expert by any means, but that upper is $500 + the $185 you optioned out correct?

you can go to smartgunner and get a daniel defense upper for $409 shipped

or

you can get a bravo company government profile upper for $399.99+$14 shipped

IIRC 1:11 twist is what they used back in the 80's, from what i hear most people run 1:7 twist with the occasional 1:9 on the non chrome lined cheaper uppers

again im not an expert, just passing on some money saving ideas i found before i decided on getting one used

He's buying a 6.8 SPC upper not a .223/5.56 upper.

[6mmintl]

Rifle length= longer sight radius, more accuracy= rifleman out to 500yards

Carbine= shorter sight radius, less accurate= ricky recon tap dancer at the 50 yard line.

[edward]

Rifle length= longer sight radius, more accuracy= rifleman out to 500yards

Carbine= shorter sight radius, less accurate= ricky recon tap dancer at the 50 yard line.

lol, and you assumed he is not going to be using optics why? I don't know a single person with a 6.8 rifle that uses Just irons, so that sight radius arguement should not even be close to the deciding factor as to what he wants.

@ OP, the 6.8 forums will be able to provide you with an answer quicker (actually I think I've seen this topic there before if you want to search their forum).

[send it_hit]

not an upper expert by any means, but that upper is $500 + the $185 you optioned out correct?

you can go to smartgunner and get a daniel defense upper for $409 shipped

or

you can get a bravo company government profile upper for $399.99+$14 shipped

IIRC 1:11 twist is what they used back in the 80's, from what i hear most people run 1:7 twist with the occasional 1:9 on the non chrome lined cheaper uppers

again im not an expert, just passing on some money saving ideas i found before i decided on getting one used

yeah, going for 6.8 not 5.56... but I do plan on getting a 5.56 upper eventually so ill keep those in mind. thanks!

Rifle length= longer sight radius, more accuracy= rifleman out to 500yards

Carbine= shorter sight radius, less accurate= ricky recon tap dancer at the 50 yard line.

...what? lol. how much less accurate are we talking do you think? at 25-100yds?

lol, and you assumed he is not going to be using optics why? I don't know a single person with a 6.8 rifle that uses Just irons, so that sight radius arguement should not even be close to the deciding factor as to what he wants.

@ OP, the 6.8 forums will be able to provide you with an answer quicker (actually I think I've seen this topic there before if you want to search their forum).

won't be using optics for quite awhile. i want to learn to be proficient with irons first. also, need to save some cash for optics anyway.

thanks guys

[Nathan Krynn]

I would learn on 223 not 6.8. It takes a lot of learning to become proficient and 6.8 is expensive.

There is no way to say how much more accurate but yes a longer sight radius is inherently more accurate. Remember though army qualifies from 50 to 300 meters with carbine length so you will be fine.

I love Bison's barrels. I have 2 personally. A 16" mid with a 11"trx extreme and a 20" intermediate with a 13" trx extreme. Basically just long enough to cover the gas blocks.