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So whats this about DPMS and Armalite Uppers and odd cuts to the receivers?

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  • PixelBender
    Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 359

    So whats this about DPMS and Armalite Uppers and odd cuts to the receivers?

    I hear that certain lowers and uppers have an issue with their cuts resulting in the buffer being exposed.

    I'm a little confused as to which way it goes.


    Armalite Lowers dont fit DPMS uppers? Or the other way around?

    I have a Spikes Multical Lower with an Armalite Upper. Works just fine.

    Maybe someone can help explain this as I dont even know what to search on google (or here).

    Thanks so much.
    NRA - CRPA - 2AF - JPFO
  • #2
    JaeFern
    Senior Member
    • May 2006
    • 1796

    You may be hearing about the .308/7.62 side of the AR house.

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    • #3
      Rock6.3
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 2431

      AR-10 (Armalite) and LR-308 (DPMS) have a different shaped upsweep on the top of the lower receiver. This does not apply to AR-15 platforms.

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      • #4
        KaLiFORNIA
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 1189

        Not for standard AR's..

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        • #5
          CHS
          Moderator Emeritus
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2008
          • 11338

          This is only for .308 AR's.

          There are two basic "patterns" out there that .308 AR's follow. DPMS and Armalite. DPMS looks just like a big scaled up AR15. Armalite at the buffer tower area has a straight cut rather than a rounded cut. An Armalite upper will fit on a DPMS lower (but not function), but a DPMS upper WILL NOT fit on an Armalite lower.

          There are some even more confusing options out there like LMT .308's follow the Armalite pattern, but accept DPMS magazines. LWRC's LOOK like Armalite patterns, but are totally incompatible with either Armalite or DPMS uppers, but still accept DPMS magazines. KAC also uses DPMS mags with an Armalite style pattern. CMMG makes a DPMS pattern lower that uses HK G3 mags which requires modifications to a DPMS upper.

          This all only pertains to .308-based AR's and has NOTHING to do with standard 5.56-based "AR-15's". AR-15's are standardized based on the military's adoption of the M16/M4 platform and are pretty much universally compatible. Armalite and DPMS "AR-15" parts are interchangeable.
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          • #6
            tacticalcity
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Aug 2006
            • 10831

            Next time just yell fire in a theater! You'll cause less of a panic.

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            • #7
              heycorey
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2007
              • 825

              Picture ... thousand words ... etc ...

              Last edited by heycorey; 10-25-2011, 12:44 PM.

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              • #8
                novalondon
                Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 217

                Originally posted by heycorey
                Picture ... thousand words ... etc ...

                So, thats the difference, DPMS puts the charging handle on the bottom instead of the top of the reciver....LOL
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                • #9
                  novalondon
                  Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 217

                  Sorry, could not resisit the chance to do it!!
                  01-FFL - Restorer and sales of old battle rifles
                  Smile, it makes then wonder what your up to !
                  Leave it cleaner than you found it, one day you may come back to it.
                  Ooh Rah- 1969-1978

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                  • #10
                    Bentot
                    Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 156

                    As far as AR10/308 styles, some knowlegeable Calgunners should make up a list about various lowers' compatibility with uppers and magazines.

                    I myself is thinking of building one but is totally confused.

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                    • #11
                      CHS
                      Moderator Emeritus
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 11338

                      Originally posted by Bentot
                      As far as AR10/308 styles, some knowlegeable Calgunners should make up a list about various lowers' compatibility with uppers and magazines.
                      When you shop around for lowers, they will tell you what pattern they use and what magazine they use.

                      The industry prefers DPMS magazines for sure, and those are the kind that Magpul makes, but the more 'high end' uppers tend to be Armalite pattern.
                      Please read the Calguns Wiki
                      Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                      --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                      • #12
                        JaeFern
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2006
                        • 1796

                        Originally posted by Bentot
                        As far as AR10/308 styles, some knowlegeable Calgunners should make up a list about various lowers' compatibility with uppers and magazines.

                        I myself is thinking of building one but is totally confused.
                        Just get a MA-TEN set. Will accept DPMS or Armalite barrel extensions. Then do what you want (remember that the rail height for the MA-TEN is a DPMS High Profile unless you don't care if the rails don't match height. I don't personally. The scope rings mount on the receiver for me only anyways.) And they use DPMS magazines too. I beleive there is already a thread with people listing their builds. MEGA Arms site also has compatibility listings for their MA-TEN set as well.

                        (Top Rifle)Can you tell the Upper Rail and the FF Hand guard rails don't match heights? The FF Hand Guards height is a DPMS Low Pro but it obviously serves me no real function since I don't use iron sights on it... (and yes I know I need to replace the optics on it... it was just laying around and I'm broke so it's going to have to wait...)
                        Last edited by JaeFern; 04-26-2012, 10:59 PM.

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                        • #13
                          heycorey
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 825

                          Originally posted by novalondon
                          Sorry, could not resisit the chance to do it!!

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