Did I miss any?

[NYsteveZ]

I THINK I covered all I could with the Russian Iron Curtain bloc (see my sig). I just wanted an example of different variants, and I think I got them all (or did I?) I am definately going to add a CZ52 and Makarov. I MIGHT add an RPK, and a PSL, but the PSLs Ive seen have either tacti-crap plastic furniture, OR I might get a VEPR in 762x54-but a VEPR is a hunting gun, not cold war...Unless there is a way to convert it A La SAIGA-AK.
I know I dont have a VZ58, an AMD or a Krink, but I have all the variants of AK I want. Am I missing any other post WW2 stuff?

[nick]

It depends on how deep you want to go. Also, a lot of that stuff isn't Russian (including some of the stuff you want, which is either Czech, or Romanian). With that said (and covering not just the post-WWII stuff), you seem to be missing an M38 or M91/59, M91 (the original long one), a TT of some flavor, or an M57, an AK-47 or AKM (you indicate that you own an AK-47, but it's probably an AKM clone. AK-47 - milled, AKM - stamped). I'm not sure where you're looking for PSLs, as most of the ones I've seen come with the original thumbhole stock. Also, check out RPKs, RPDs, DPs, AK-74s, and if you want to get really adventurous, build/buy a Russian Maxim

Check out Saigas in various calibers (they come in 7.62x39, 5.45x39, .308, .223, .410, 12GA, and so on). There're many different Czech handguns from that era, as well, such as CZ-52, CZ-50, CZ-70, etc. Finally, VZ-52 is an interesting design, see if you can find it in 7.62x45 (yes, not x39). There's still ammo for it out there (I have some, as well, I might sell it if I don't find me a VZ-52). While at it, check out Finnish Mosin-Nagants. Not quite combloc, but it's Mosins, and outstanding ones, at that.

And while we're on the subject of AKs... The number of variants can keep you occupied for a loooong time. It sure does keep me occupied.

Would you like to know more?

[NYsteveZ]

Haha, Nick-I can always rely on you! Holy cow, I have to google some stuff. I forgot about the SHE rifle...Also, arent RPDs a no-no? Also, I just got my C&R today, so that should help with the mosin variants. A Russian Maxim? I can only imagine. I have seen PPS43Cs and Skorpions, and I might have to jump on those before long.

[nick]

You can build an RPD, the parts kits are out there, as well as at least one ATF-approved design. Put a fin on that pistol grip, does it have any other evil features? I see them for sale every now and then, too. I saw Maxim parts kits not so long ago, and 60-80% RSPs for them, as well.

Right, I forgot PPSh and PPS (and Scorpions, if you can find a maglock for one). Also, Finnish KP-31 and KP-44 are close relatives of the PPSh and PPS. I doubt you'll be able to find a PPD. PPSh and KP-31 are CA-legal, provided the barrel is at least 16". If you want to build one, Apex and Centerfire both sell the semiauto/closed bolt parts kit for KP-31.

Now, if you really want to spend money, there're a few Russian Tigrs out there, as well as NSM-86 (both are much closer to SVD than PSL, which uses an AK action). Yugo M-86 is close, too.

Wanna waste, er, invest more money? How does an RPK with a folding stock sound? That would be a Romanian AES-10. Also, I see that you have an underfolder, but what about a sidefolder? And there's quite a few different sidefolders out there. There're Russian/Bulgarian triangle stocks, and those weird Chinese ones. Then there're the Yugo AKs, which are in a category of their own. Come to think of it, a Yugo 59/66 is missing from that collection of yours, it's quite different from other SKSs. They also made a more traditional M59 SKS. Romanians, Albanians, and East Germans made their own SKSs, too... Then there's a Chinese paratrooper SKS. Or how about a Chinese Type-56 AK with an integral bayonet?

And the number of Mosin variants is next to endless. How about an M91 made in the US by Remington and New England Westinghouse?

Is you consider Egypt to be a part of combloc (they were, after all, socialist at the time), they made two quite distinct semiauto rifles, Hakim and Rashid (one in 8mm, the other in 7.62x39). Speaking of 8mm, Yugoslavs made their versions of the 98k Mausers during their communist years - M24/47 and M48

Now, all these countries also made some .22 trainers. Romanian ones are cheap, the Polish ones look like a Mosin Nagant, Czechs made quite a number of different models.

Now, if you want rifles used at, say, the Battle of Moscow, maybe you should look into M1 Garands, M1903s, M1 carbines, and M27 Thompsons... I'm not kidding, although I doubt many (if any) of those returned from Russia.

Come to think of it, StG-44 being the predecessor of the AK, you might want to look into those, as well. And Russians did buy some Colt 1903s...

Would you like to know more?

[RRichie09]

You commie pig. That is all.






haha jk;ing.

[m03]

The RPD semi conversions don't really have a great reputation for reliability...there seem to be more of them that don't work than the ones that do.

The PKM semi-autos on the other hand...

[MrPlink]

You need a PK

[NYsteveZ]

Wow...Ive also seen a Yugo M-76, which resembles a sniper rifle, and shoots 8mm (I believe) I actually know someone with a Ppsh, which he said was built by Allied armory. I dont think they make them anymore, and it was a group buy on here some time ago. Ive been on the fence about the Egyptian stuff, but now Im sold-I didnt know they were part of Russias cool clique. That reminds me-Ive seen some Turkish stuff that I think was Commy built, but I could be wrong.
I dont know the rules about posting auctions on here, but I seen a Vz 52 She rifle on GB last night (in fact there is two now). Both seemed to look like they got pulled from Davey Jones locker-They are DARK and grainy looking. Are they suppose to look like that?

[chead]

Haha, Nick-I can always rely on you! Holy cow, I have to google some stuff. I forgot about the SHE rifle...Also, arent RPDs a no-no? Also, I just got my C&R today, so that should help with the mosin variants. A Russian Maxim? I can only imagine. I have seen PPS43Cs and Skorpions, and I might have to jump on those before long.

Skorpion parts kits are dirt cheap and there's a few people producing both complete receivers and 80%s. I've been tempted myself..

[NYsteveZ]

Skorpion parts kits are dirt cheap and there's a few people producing both complete receivers and 80%s. I've been tempted myself..

Ive seen a few Skorpions-Atlantic Firearms has them for $699, and cdnn has them cheaper, but I dont know if Atlantic will sell them to California, cdnn simply wont. Cdnn bought them all up from Czechpoint, thanks cdnn! Im even willing to buy it without the large mag, or, they can break it down as a mag kit.
How hard would it be to build one?

[nick]

The reason they don't sell to CA (aside from CDNN being rather asinine that way) is because Skorpions need a maglock.

[ZX-10R]

PSL or M76...Finding any SVD style is impossible in CA. How about an AES-10...Lots of commie guns to go...I need a millled AK next.

[nick]

PSL or M76...Finding any SVD style is impossible in CA. How about an AES-10...Lots of commie guns to go...I need a millled AK next.

Ammo Bros has PSLs all the time, and I saw AES-10s there before, too, back when I was paying attention.

[m03]

Ive seen a few Skorpions-Atlantic Firearms has them for $699, and cdnn has them cheaper, but I dont know if Atlantic will sell them to California, cdnn simply wont. Cdnn bought them all up from Czechpoint, thanks cdnn! Im even willing to buy it without the large mag, or, they can break it down as a mag kit.
How hard would it be to build one?

They've been brought into Cali before, by PRKArms: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=241733

[NYsteveZ]

PSL or M76...Finding any SVD style is impossible in CA. How about an AES-10...Lots of commie guns to go...I need a millled AK next.

Hmm...I'm almost cringing doing this, knowing tomorrow the guns I had my eye on will be sold, but, what the heck. All Cali legal, and they do layaway. Nick-This is where I seen the PSL, but its got plastic furniture. They also have the AES-10, and they DID have a Yugo RPK. They also have a bunch of milled AKs too. If I were to choose a purchase from them, I would go with the AES-10, which I was considering in the next week, but if one of you guys snap it up, you might make my next purchase easier. Nick-I'll check out Ammo Bros for the traditional PSL. You've been a ton of help, thanks!

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storecategory94.aspx