Ca legal 7.62x39

[Flopper]

+100 for 545x39

Bump.

I prefer the 5.45x39, and so does Russia. There's a reason for that.

[gun toting monkeyboy]

There is no valid arguement. If it is being changed to a configuration which is not importable, you have to adhere to 922(r).

I don't know about that one. There has never been a definate answer from any agency on the validity of adding a bullet guide and triggering 922(r). I have heard arguements from both sides, and neither one is all that convincing. Just because you say that it is doesn't make it so. Just the same as those on the other side saying the opposite. It is a vague law.

A saiga with the ability to accept AK mags is no more unsporting here in CA than one without it. We have no limits on a rifle's magazine capacity for sporting purposes. If you have a 100 round drum for your AK, and want to go hunt deer with it, the only restrictions are on they type of ammunition. Not the number. So by that logic, it is still a sporting rifle, no matter the round count. Other states have 5 or 10 round limits for hunting rifles. But here is where we run afoul of the 14th ammendment. The Equal Protection clause basically says that everybody has the law apply equally to them. If a saiga is sporting in one locality with 30 rounders, but not sporting in another, where does the Federal Government stand on the issue? They can't very well say that you have to comply with 922(r) in X, Y, and Z, but not in D, E, and F. And to make matters worse, they won't give anybody an official ruling on the matter. And IIRC, it is only illegal to modify a gun from sporting to non-sporting configurations without complying with 922(r). It is NOT illegal to own or possess a gun that isn't 922 (r) compliant. So if you didn't do the mods, there isn't squat that can be done to you. But again, I am not a lawyer. And who would trust the advise of somebody on a gun forum that goes by the name of "Gun Toting Monkeyboy"?

-Mb

[Cali-Shooter]

What is the very best Ca legal rifle that takes AK magazines and does not need a BB?

Your best bet: Saiga AK-47.

If you don't want to spend that much dough on one or converting a stock Saiga into one, then a featureless WASR-10.

Here's my converted Arsenal Saiga SGL-20.

[zfields]

I don't know about that one. There has never been a definate answer from any agency on the validity of adding a bullet guide and triggering 922(r). I have heard arguements from both sides, and neither one is all that convincing. Just because you say that it is doesn't make it so. Just the same as those on the other side saying the opposite. It is a vague law.

A saiga with the ability to accept AK mags is no more unsporting here in CA than one without it. We have no limits on a rifle's magazine capacity for sporting purposes. If you have a 100 round drum for your AK, and want to go hunt deer with it, the only restrictions are on they type of ammunition. Not the number. So by that logic, it is still a sporting rifle, no matter the round count. Other states have 5 or 10 round limits for hunting rifles. But here is where we run afoul of the 14th ammendment. The Equal Protection clause basically says that everybody has the law apply equally to them. If a saiga is sporting in one locality with 30 rounders, but not sporting in another, where does the Federal Government stand on the issue? They can't very well say that you have to comply with 922(r) in X, Y, and Z, but not in D, E, and F. And to make matters worse, they won't give anybody an official ruling on the matter. And IIRC, it is only illegal to modify a gun from sporting to non-sporting configurations without complying with 922(r). It is NOT illegal to own or possess a gun that isn't 922 (r) compliant. So if you didn't do the mods, there isn't squat that can be done to you. But again, I am not a lawyer. And who would trust the advise of somebody on a gun forum that goes by the name of "Gun Toting Monkeyboy"?

-Mb

Has nothing to do with CA law.

[gun toting monkeyboy]

Has nothing to do with CA law.

No, it doesn't. But the definition of "Sporting" varies from place to place. How can the feds prosecute any of this when they refuse to give a viable definition? Or when, by law in this state, a 30 magazine is legal for taking game, hence "sporting"?

-Mb

[donw]

i would agree the term "Sporting rifle" is very generic...especially to California legislators...

[zfields]

its a federal thing, doesnt matter what CA thinks is sporting. I agree, its vauge, infact I said that in my first post bringing it up.


Has nothing to do with CA legislators either.