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  • Phil3
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 2249

    ARs: New Barrel Require a New Bolt?

    When a barrel is replaced on an AR15 or AR10, is it standard practice to replace the bolt or bolt carrier group. I ask because I am considering using 260 Remington for an AR10, and given that this round eats barrels much faster than a 308, the cost for using this round is even higher if I have to replace the bolt with the barrel. Just trying to get some operating costs nailed down before I make a decision.

    - Phil
  • #2
    motorwerks
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 1619

    I would if I could afford it, but if I cant afford it right away and its a low-ish round count, have it head spaced. If it checks out okay I say have a party and run it.








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    • #3
      brando
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2006
      • 3694

      Headspace is the main thing to watch out for. Get some go/no-go gauges and test it once you install the new barrel.
      --Brando

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      • #4
        Nathan Krynn
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 2107

        I would. Bolts wear to the extension.
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        • #5
          Sicarius
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2008
          • 2917

          Idealy yes.
          Kevin

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          • #6
            TangoCharlie
            Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 348

            Bolts are so cheap, $45 or so for a new one. No reason not to.

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            • #7
              rero360
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 3926

              Originally posted by TangoCharlie
              Bolts are so cheap, $45 or so for a new one. No reason not to.
              but you could buy a sweet red dot scope with that and be true ballin

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              • #8
                Phil3
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 2249

                Originally posted by TangoCharlie
                Bolts are so cheap, $45 or so for a new one. No reason not to.
                This is an AR10. A new bolt assembly is $115. The bolt, stripped, with no gas rings, or anything else on it, is $71. Complete bolt carrier group is $257.

                - Phil

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                • #9
                  CHS
                  Moderator Emeritus
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 11338

                  Depends on at what kind of round counts you're thinking you'll be replacing barrels at.

                  If we're talking 2-3 thousand rounds, yes you should replace the bolt along with the new barrel.

                  If we're talking 1-2 thousand, you can probably go every other bolt at least and not run into any headspace issues.

                  If you're talking less than a thousand rounds, don't bother.
                  Please read the Calguns Wiki
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                  --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                  • #10
                    motorwerks
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 1619

                    Originally posted by Phil3
                    This is an AR10. A new bolt assembly is $115. The bolt, stripped, with no gas rings, or anything else on it, is $71. Complete bolt carrier group is $257.

                    - Phil
                    this!

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                    • #11
                      bohoki
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 20771

                      i would assume that risk its not like you were firing the other one in automatic mode with extremely warm nato rounds

                      if anybody out there has a worn out barrel let me know i want to put together a rimfire and have an army conversion kit but dont want to pollute a good barrel with my cheapo bulk walmart ammo
                      Last edited by bohoki; 09-07-2011, 8:37 PM.

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                      • #12
                        fmunk
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 3896

                        No need as headspace can't be adjusted in an AR. Do a google search on the subject and you'll find plenty of confirmations from AR specific forums like arfcom. You just have to make sure you tighten the barrel nut to the correct torque spec. Off the top of my head I think it's 55 ft-lb, but do your own research to be sure.


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                        • #13
                          TangoCharlie
                          Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 348

                          You just need a new bolt, not the whole BCG. Even at $71, it's cheap insurance...

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                          • #14
                            Hoop
                            Ready fo HILLARY!!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 11534

                            If the headspace is good then you are fine. Check with go, no-go and field gauges to be sure.

                            Also buying a new bolt IN NO WAY GUARANTEES PROPER HEADSPACE.

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                            • #15
                              CHS
                              Moderator Emeritus
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 11338

                              Originally posted by TangoCharlie
                              You just need a new bolt, not the whole BCG. Even at $71, it's cheap insurance...
                              A quality barrel extension and bolt can go several thousand rounds without wearing enough to actually change the headspace. Especially to unsafe levels.

                              Since it sounds like the barrel will be replaced quite often in this particular case, and will mean a new extension which will mean a slight reset of the headspace, I wouldn't even worry about changing the bolt out until a few thousand rounds have gone through the gun.

                              Cheaper insurance than a $71 bolt would be a quality set of headspace gauges for the cartridge, and just to check it each time a barrel is changed.
                              Please read the Calguns Wiki
                              Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                              --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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