Fixed Mag on a Mini 14 must be 10 rounds?

[Lapietra]

Ok I am not sure if I am reading the regs correct, so correct me if I am wrong please.

I purchased my first mini 14 in 1996 (184 series) so I actually have legally owned pre-2000 5, 10, 20 and 30 round mags for my rifle.

I recently purchased a newer model mini 14 (580 series) which came with several aftermarket stocks including a TAPCO stock with pistol grip and telescoping stock.

I researched here on Calguns and found two options for magazine locks capable of being installed to a Mini 14 with the pistol grip and telescoping stock to make it legal.

But here is where I get confused. If I install the magazine lock / bullet button and use the TAPCO stock I have to use 10 round mags or block my high caps mags to only accept 10 rounds?

[Ed_Hazard]

Yes, A mag of >10 rds on mag locked evil featured rifle is a no go.

[Librarian]

But here is where I get confused. If I install the magazine lock / bullet button and use the TAPCO stock I have to use 10 round mags or block my high caps mags to only accept 10 rounds?

Yes. If you keep the original stock (the one that does not frighten the neighbors) then you can use the old large-capacity mags. If you add 'features' like folding stock or pistol grip, you need the bullet button, and then you need to use only 10-round or fewer mags.

See the link on mags in my .sig, below.

[Briancnelson]

If I had a mini-14 with that many preban magazines, I'd just leave it featureless, but each to their own!

[tonelar]

If I had a mini-14 with that many preban magazines, I'd just leave it featureless, but each to their own!

Or have one in standard configuration. Which is what it sounds like Lapietra has already. Fixed mag 10 rounds or less aren't AWs. Having over 10 makes even a fixed mag rifle an AW.

[dfletcher]

A fixed magazine on any semi auto centerfire rifle, pistol grip or no, is a violation. If you take the Mini 14 out of the pistol gripped stock and drop it into a regular Mini 14 stock (no PG) and stick a +10 round mag in it that's a violation. The mag release of a Mini 14 is a bit of a pain to replace too, switching any time I wanted top change a stock and go from fixed 10 rounder to high cap is something I wouldn't want to do.

Edit: My mistake above, disregard - see below.

[tujungatoes]

A fixed magazine on any semi auto centerfire rifle, pistol grip or no, is a violation. If you take the Mini 14 out of the pistol gripped stock and drop it into a regular Mini 14 stock (no PG) and stick a +10 round mag in it that's a violation. The mag release of a Mini 14 is a bit of a pain to replace too, switching any time I wanted top change a stock and go from fixed 10 rounder to high cap is something I wouldn't want to do.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Please stop spreading FUD.

[WDE91]

the mini in its off the shelf traditional status is a featureless rifle

meaning without features it can take the 10+ mags

If you have a magazine locking design on your rifle NEVER insert a magazine greater than 10 rounds

ditch the tapco and use your OE fixed stock/wood stock

[Oceanbob]

A fixed magazine on any semi auto centerfire rifle, pistol grip or no, is a violation. If you take the Mini 14 out of the pistol gripped stock and drop it into a regular Mini 14 stock (no PG) and stick a +10 round mag in it that's a violation. The mag release of a Mini 14 is a bit of a pain to replace too, switching any time I wanted top change a stock and go from fixed 10 rounder to high cap is something I wouldn't want to do.

Wrong....!

Wrong.....!

He can use a normal mini stock for his new model and run 20 or 30, 40 round preban magazines that he's owned pre 2000.

Not a problem.

I would Drop Kick the Mall Ninja Tapco stock and run a normal wood or rubberized aftermarket stock. It's not worth the 'look' to run a 10 rounder and bullet button. JMO.

Bob

[Sniper3142]

A fixed magazine on any semi auto centerfire rifle, pistol grip or no, is a violation. If you take the Mini 14 out of the pistol gripped stock and drop it into a regular Mini 14 stock (no PG) and stick a +10 round mag in it that's a violation. The mag release of a Mini 14 is a bit of a pain to replace too, switching any time I wanted top change a stock and go from fixed 10 rounder to high cap is something I wouldn't want to do.

Wrong on so many levels!

Having a fixed magazine on a semi-auto only matters if you insert a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds. Using magazines that hold 10 rounds or less in a fixed magazine semi-auto rifle is legal.


"Better to be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt."

[Lapietra]

Oh dont worry I am staying featureless! Just was a little confused about how the regs read when it came to the fixed mag stuff.

[WDE91]

yup stay featureless and run those mags
no flash hider
zero pistol grips
no locked mags

[dfletcher]

You have no idea what you're talking about. Please stop spreading FUD.

Gimme a break, you're right - all 3 of you are right. I forgot to put the darned "+ 10 fixed mag" part in the post, I knew something looked wrong. A few thousand good posts and one screw up - unforgiving skunks!

What I wanted to convey was that if he kept the "fixed mag" attribute on the Mini, switched the gun from the PG stock and put it into the standard stock - then replaced the fixed 10 with a +10 fixed mag figuring the non-Pg stock made it OK - it is not. A +10 fixed mag is a no go on the Mini even without the PG.

Crap, tough crowd.

[terrapinflyer25]

[Lapietra]

The sad part is I just realized that all those AR owners out there can only have 10 round mags in California. I thought the bullet button allowed them to use pre 2000 mags they may have owned. I now know I was wrong. I will stick with my mini 14 and for once in my life be thankful I am 40+ years old and stared buying guns in the 1990's.