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  • goldrush
    Banned
    • Sep 2009
    • 366

    Making My AR California Legal

    This is very confusing.

    I have an AR with a RRA two-stage NM lower, full A2 configuration. As I look through the gallery, I see similar rifles with what appears to be the same lower. What do I have to do to my AR to make it Cali-legal?

    Is it as simple as slapping a bullet button on it?
  • #2
    goldrush
    Banned
    • Sep 2009
    • 366

    Originally posted by zukieast
    State Supreme court ruled in favor of gun owners over this. Around 2004/5 period. It stated that the DOJ could not just blanket ban weapons based on a simple term AK or AR15. The DOJ had to specifically name the manufacturer and model. EX: COLT AR-15, BUSHMASTER XM-15...

    This was to take out the question of if it is a banned firearm or not. And had to be registered. This is where you get the term listed.

    Now, comes the Off List Lower issue. Same function, same everything. However, the name SPIKES, STAG etc all came after the official list came out.

    So, combine an OLL with a bullet button BEFORE you complete assembly of the lower, or the weapon comes into the state through an FFL who has installed the BB on the gun prior to sending it to CA you can purchase it.

    At no point can the bullet button be disabled, and at no point can a Hi-Cap magazine be added to the rifle. Even if you already owned the Hi-Cap mag before the Large Cap mag law went into affect. Inserting a Large capacity mag into the weapon WHILE IN CALIFORNIA triggers assualt weapon. Along with disabling the Bullet Button. So dont buy one of those slick BB magnet "tools"

    As the other posters have commented if you want more gouge on this you are really going to have to read alot of the laws. The 2nd Amend forum has alot of good gouge on this, and does have docs that you can print out. You can make whatever folder you want to carry with you. The DOJ site is very misleading, and you could call them 5 times and get 5 different answers and none of the answers are the same or correct.

    In reality if you are stopped by an officer he/she is not going to pay 1 bit of attention to your "folder of legal writs". I f you push a hot head officer he/she is going to push back. So you basically just shut the hell up, let them rage on, walk out of Jail and call Calguns foundation for legal assistance.

    The foundation is still working very hard at trying to educate the state law enforcement community on the finite subject to prevent illegal arrests/detention. And they will help you so long as you followed the rules.

    Off List Lower
    Bullet Button installed and functional
    No, folding/collapseble stocks
    No , Hi capacity magazines in the rifle
    Rifle barrel at least 16" or longer
    Proper storage during transportation to and from ranges
    Shooting in legal areas
    Found this post in another thread. It's helping.

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    • #3
      Quiet
      retired Goon
      • Mar 2007
      • 30241

      Originally posted by goldrush
      This is very confusing.

      I have an AR with a RRA two-stage NM lower, full A2 configuration. As I look through the gallery, I see similar rifles with what appears to be the same lower. What do I have to do to my AR to make it Cali-legal?

      Is it as simple as slapping a bullet button on it?
      What is the exact make & model of your AR?

      Rock River Arms ARs are on the ban list.
      If the side of the reciever says any of the below, then they are make/model banned and can not be imported/possessed in CA. (bullet button maglock will not make it legal)

      Standard A-2
      Car A2
      Standard A-4 Flattop
      Car A4 Flattop
      NM A2 - DCM Legal
      LE Tactical Carbine

      If it's listed, it's a no-go for CA.
      You can strip all the parts off it and build them on an "off list lower" (AR lower that is not make/model banned) and make that CA legal.
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      • #4
        glock_this
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2005
        • 8225

        here is a great read that will answer it all by our very own member

        10 +1 in the chamber

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        • #5
          CK_32
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Sep 2010
          • 14369

          Just get a bullet button and no 30 round mags.... Has to be longer than 36" or around something
          like that with the stock fully collapsed... Barrel has to be at least 16" with out with out the flash hider..
          and no full auto.

          Simple as that.



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          • #6
            CK_32
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Sep 2010
            • 14369

            Oh yea and make sure your lowers not on the ban list.
            For Sale: AR500 Lvl III+ ASC Armor

            What's Your Caliber??


            My Youtube channel

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            • #7
              Kingpin.SC
              The Laser Guy (Vendor/Retailer)
              • Jan 2011
              • 857

              Originally posted by Quiet
              What is the exact make & model of your AR?

              Rock River Arms ARs are on the ban list.
              If the side of the reciever says any of the below, then they are make/model banned and can not be imported/possessed in CA. (bullet button maglock will not make it legal)

              Standard A-2
              Car A2
              Standard A-4 Flattop
              Car A4 Flattop
              NM A2 - DCM Legal
              LE Tactical Carbine

              If it's listed, it's a no-go for CA.
              You can strip all the parts off it and build them on an "off list lower" (AR lower that is not make/model banned) and make that CA legal.
              ^ Yup. Make sure it isn't on the list, and from there just make sure you have a bullet-button installed if you have any "evil features".
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              • #8
                goldrush
                Banned
                • Sep 2009
                • 366

                Originally posted by Quiet
                What is the exact make & model of your AR?

                Rock River Arms ARs are on the ban list.
                If the side of the reciever says any of the below, then they are make/model banned and can not be imported/possessed in CA. (bullet button maglock will not make it legal)

                Standard A-2
                Car A2
                Standard A-4 Flattop
                Car A4 Flattop
                NM A2 - DCM Legal
                LE Tactical Carbine

                If it's listed, it's a no-go for CA.
                You can strip all the parts off it and build them on an "off list lower" (AR lower that is not make/model banned) and make that CA legal.
                Thanks. This is starting to make sense. It's a LAR15 lower with a White Oak Precision upper.

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                • #9
                  someR1
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 2932

                  Originally posted by goldrush
                  Thanks. This is starting to make sense. It's a LAR15 lower with a White Oak Precision upper.
                  Check the ban list and make sure LAR15 isn't on the list. If it's not on the list, all you need is a bullet button and 10 round mag, and it's legal.

                  you can run 30 round mags BUT the rifle must be "featureless"
                  "To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
                  - George Mason

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                  • #10
                    Army
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 3915

                    And no radio installed. And no sequential red/blue lights operating. And no ability to make smoke signals. No trailer hitch either, that's a real big felony in Zimbabweburg.



                    Just follow the flow chart, it cannot be easier (top of page, click on "AW & OLL Guides")
                    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......Cicero

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                    • #11
                      donking
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 630

                      Originally posted by goldrush
                      Thanks. This is starting to make sense. It's a LAR15 lower with a White Oak Precision upper.
                      Originally posted by goldrush
                      This is very confusing.

                      I have an AR with a RRA two-stage NM lower, full A2 configuration. As I look through the gallery, I see similar rifles with what appears to be the same lower. What do I have to do to my AR to make it Cali-legal?

                      Is it as simple as slapping a bullet button on it?
                      The 2nd page of the CA AW ID Flowchart on the "AW & OLL Guides" link in the middle of the page has the listings


                      Is your lower made by RRA or LAR15? It isn't clear from your two posts.

                      One RRA model = "Rock River Arms, Inc.: NM A2" is on the appendix B banned list. As such it can't be brought into California.

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