Cartridge Question

[Inquirer]

Hey Guys,

I've been doing some research online and I've seen two appealing Armor/Plate Carrier combos - the USPALM ASP-C ($399.00), and the Crye Precision JPC (~$2200). A SEAL buddy steered me towards Crye Precision, because they're super light and work directly with SEALS in San Diego tailoring products to mission needs.

But in the armor rating, the USPALM ASP-C's rated to withstand 7.62 APM2, whereas the Crye armor is rated for 7.62 AP. Is there a difference in the cartridges? All I can infer is that the APM2 is a newer variant of the 7.62 AP cartridge. Right? Wrong? Big difference in Armor worth?

Feel free to chime in if you have experience with either vest, but the main purpose of the thread is to figure out what the difference between AP and APM2 is.

Thanks,

--Inq

[Inquirer]

Anybody know the difference?

[sevensix2x51]

i'm no expert, but M2 ball ammo is an old round. a plate rated for armor piercing should be designated "class 4," and if both of those plates are rated for armor piercing 7.62, they should both be class 4 plates, and designed to withstand a single round of .30-06 M2 ball. thereby, the same plate.

hope that helps.

[rero360]

What are your intended uses of the plate carrier and plates?

My suggestion, stay away from rectangular plates and carriers designed for them (old tech) and go with multi-curved plates and a carrier designed for them. Look up the SAPI and ESAPI plates that the military uses, that design, shooters cut I believe, is much much better in allowing you to wear the plates where they should while maintaining a certain level of comfort and still allowing you to shoulder a rifle properly.

The front plate is supposed to be positioned so that the top of the plate is at the top of your sternum, going up an inch to cover the sternum notch is acceptable, with the bottom of the plate being 1 1/2 inches above your navel and it being wide enough to cover your nipples. Here is some pics of what I'm talking about: http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=85112

I suggest you check out SKD's website and see what they have to offer for PCs and plates, I bought a PIG from them and love it so far.