registration question...

[hardkore909]

I'm going through a nasty nasty nasty divorce with a deputy sheriff who thinks my OLL is an illegal assault rifle. I already was told to turn in my mini-14 because it was less of a hassle to try and defend it's legality in "family law" court. Here is the question in regards to my OLL. Would it be a stupid idea to voluntarily register it and take that registration with me to court when they try and tell me I have an illegal rifle? Opinions from knowledgable persons are most welcomed here. Thanks in advance!

[blkA4alb]

There is nothing with that rifle that you can register.

[hardkore909]

Maybe i'm mistaken but isn't there a voluntary long rifle registration?

[JawBone]

That only applies to new residents of the state or intra-familial transfers.

No. The form he is talking about is the voluntary Firearm Ownership Record.

Page 2 states:

This form may not be used to report ownership of assault weapons defined in PC section 12276, 12276.1, or12276.5. It is the responsibility of the applicant to determine if the firearm being reported is an assault weapon. A list of assault weapons is available on the Firearms Division web site at www.ag.ca.gov/firearms. Questions may be directed to the Bureau of Firearms at (916) 263-4887.

Interesting. I would think it is worth a shot, rather than giving it up voluntarily.

[hoffmang]

1. The "registration" above only creates an ownership record.

2. That record really isn't going to help prove that the firearm is legal.

Your best answer is to pay one of the good firearms attorneys to assist you. One way to be safe is to find a local FFL to transfer your firearms to for safe keeping until the process is complete.

-Gene

[hardkore909]

Maybe I will just take the OLL apart until the divorce is done. My mini-14 is sitting on a gun rack about 20 feet away from me right now just waiting for me to get my LEGR sent in. I would bring the OLL in but it's a conflict of interest for me to bring more in seeing as how I work for the PD my gun is at

[hoffmang]

A lower without an upper is not a semiautomatic rifle...

-Gene

[SemiAutoSam]

So A LEO or LE Agency that puts the upper and lower that happened to be in the same case is guilty or could be guilty of creating a Assault Weapon ?

Lets say I have a Case that has 2 uppers and 2 lowers in it

#1 uppers is a 20 inch with a flash Hider.

#2 Upper is a 20 inch without any muzzle device.

#3 Lower is a fixed A2 butt stock with a Monster Man grip or no grip at all.

#4 Lower is a collapsible butt stock with a fixed 10 round magazine.

If they assemble #1 and #4 we know that is legal.

If they Assemble #2 with #3 we know that is legal.

But If they assemble #1 with #3 they have created a Assault Weapon.

Whats to stop them from doing this and how do you prove the rifle was not assembled like this in the first place?

A lower without an upper is not a semiautomatic rifle...

-Gene

[hoffmang]

Constructive possession does not apply to the AWCA. As such - as long as they are apart and the lowers aren't listed - they are not even semiautomatic.

An upper is totally unregulated parts.

-Gene