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  • Bug Splat
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2007
    • 6561

    How to lighten your savage bolt lift

    I've had a number of requests on how I lighten my bolt lift so I figured I'd share with everyone. As any savage owner knows the bolts are HEAVY! Savage kinda over did it on the spring IMO. "Go big or go home" does not really apply to bolt lift but kudos to them for thinking big

    Before you get started, measure your firing pin using calipers. A ruler is not exact enough so if you don't have a pair invest the $20 and get one. You want to make sure that the Pin Stop nut in the front (pointy end) remains the same. This nut sets the depth the firing pin protrudes out the bolt head. If it protrudes too much you risk puncturing the primer and damaging your rifle or yourself. If it does not protrude enough you will get light primer strikes and your round might not go off. Measure and wright down these lengths and be sure to set them back exactly.



    Unscrew the rear cocking nut and remove the spring. Try to leave the Pin Stop Nut in the front alone. Measure the length from the back of the Pin Stop Nut to the end of the firing pin shaft where the threading ends. Using a dremal cut the spring to this length.



    Rebuild the assembly making sure the rear nut hole lines up with the castle nut/washer peak and you are done. Your bolt lift should be about 30%-40% less. There is still plenty of power left in the spring to set off even magnum primers.

    Happy shooting
  • #2
    D3lta58
    Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 153

    Bug Splat, you have some of the best posts! Keep'em coming!
    Originally posted by MaHoTex
    Oh... and money... lots of money. In fact, it has been proven that money is the only thing that keeps a plane in the air.

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    • #3
      Army
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 3915

      You can also polish the bolt lug contact surface for a smoother lift. I also polish the sides of the lugs to smooth out the back/forth track.

      I use bore lapping compound for the lug faces, and a Kratex file for the raceways.

      I estimated an easy 15-20% reduction in bolt lift and much smoother loading.
      "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......Cicero

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      • #4
        Bug Splat
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2007
        • 6561

        Originally posted by Army
        You can also polish the bolt lug contact surface for a smoother lift. I also polish the sides of the lugs to smooth out the back/forth track.

        I use bore lapping compound for the lug faces, and a Kratex file for the raceways.

        I estimated an easy 15-20% reduction in bolt lift and much smoother loading.
        Yup, that should also be done. Great point. The combo of both polishing and lightening the spring will really change the feel of the rifle for the better. Before I install a new barrel I will polish the receiver lugs. this is also a big help but not everyone is willing to remove the barrel to polish in there.

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        • #5
          TRguy
          Junior Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 3

          Is there a special wrench needed to take the firing pin apart?

          Do you need to use something to hold the spring tension back as you unscrew the rear retainer off the firing pin body?

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          • #6
            joelogic
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2008
            • 6592

            I forgot about this mod, I am going to have to give it a try.
            Micro/Mini Reflex Red Dot Sight Mount for the M1, M1a/M14 platform

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            • #7
              Army
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 3915

              TRguy, nothing special needed to disassemble the firing pin assembly. Shouldn't be much more than hand tight anyway. The parts can only screw together just so far.

              I leave the whole assembly in the rifle as I remove the rear bolt, or at least take off all the tension, then pull the whole thing out. This way you can leave the firing pin forward, removing most of the tension on the spring and rear bolt.

              On a side note; I just received one of Sharp Shooters Supply's new fluted bolt bodies, in blue, that looks and runs GREAT in the LRPV with the blue stock (see how that worked out I've two more coming, in purple and green for the BVSS and FP. While Fred didn't put his magic angle on the cocking ramp, this new bolt has much less lift tension than stock, even after I had seriously polished the ramp. Looks good, feels good, really affordable. What's not to like?
              "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......Cicero

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              • #8
                LovingTheYear1911
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 1925

                Thank you for this write up. That's the one thing I dont like on my Savage. I will give this a try.
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                • #9
                  Iloveguns
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 868

                  You could also sell the Savage and buy a Remington. That lightens up the bolt lift quite a bit!! J/K great write up.

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                  • #10
                    TRguy
                    Junior Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 3

                    Originally posted by Army
                    TRguy, nothing special needed to disassemble the firing pin assembly. Shouldn't be much more than hand tight anyway. The parts can only screw together just so far.

                    I leave the whole assembly in the rifle as I remove the rear bolt, or at least take off all the tension, then pull the whole thing out. This way you can leave the firing pin forward, removing most of the tension on the spring and rear bolt.

                    On a side note; I just received one of Sharp Shooters Supply's new fluted bolt bodies, in blue, that looks and runs GREAT in the LRPV with the blue stock (see how that worked out I've two more coming, in purple and green for the BVSS and FP. While Fred didn't put his magic angle on the cocking ramp, this new bolt has much less lift tension than stock, even after I had seriously polished the ramp. Looks good, feels good, really affordable. What's not to like?
                    Thanks Army,

                    I have eyeballed the bolt bodies at SSS for a while. I may pull the trigger on that at some point.

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                    • #11
                      TRguy
                      Junior Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 3

                      Originally posted by Iloveguns
                      You could also sell the Savage and buy a Remington. That lightens up the bolt lift quite a bit!! J/K great write up.
                      yeah but the accuracy falls off so much.....

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                      • #12
                        Iloveguns
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 868

                        Originally posted by TRguy
                        yeah but the accuracy falls off so much.....
                        If your modifying then go with a Remington! There is a reason they are more popular!

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                        • #13
                          Army
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 3915

                          Originally posted by Iloveguns
                          If your modifying then go with a Remington! There is a reason they are more popular!
                          Not really. Remington actions are round, making them easy to put in a lathe chuck and modify. All the work you need to do to a Remington to make them shoot as good as an out-of-the-box Savage, can get rather expensive

                          Notice how much aftermarket junk is available for Chevy's? Same thing. Easy to work on.
                          "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......Cicero

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                          • #14
                            Iloveguns
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 868

                            Originally posted by Army
                            Not really. Remington actions are round, making them easy to put in a lathe chuck and modify. All the work you need to do to a Remington to make them shoot as good as an out-of-the-box Savage, can get rather expensive

                            Notice how much aftermarket junk is available for Chevy's? Same thing. Easy to work on.
                            LoL I guess your right!

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                            • #15
                              BobbyZ
                              Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 188

                              What's bolt lift?
                              >>>>>----BobZilla----->

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