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  • furfam4
    Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 229

    Wife/kids getn TO'd time spent on comp- Help AR build

    I need your help guys! Seriously, my research time is putting me in the dog house.

    I spend countless hrs on here and spent all day yesterday and today on the comp.

    My intentions are two build the lower and buy a complete upper. I would like to go with companies that have a good reputation and that makes quality products. I don't need the best of the best. Use will be for HD, CQC, fun shooting.

    I would like to spend about $800 so I can have $ for optics and accessories.

    Is this reasonable?

    Can I get some recommendations for lowers and uppers that will stay in that price range?

    If you could cover me and make sure to list all I will need for my Lower Build. As well as the parts I will need to assemble the Lower to the Upper. I will research how to do it.

    Thank you
    Last edited by furfam4; 05-09-2011, 4:12 PM.
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    stix213
    AKA: Joe Censored
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Apr 2009
    • 18998

    Most lowers are the same pretty much. Most people buy a lower based on how cool the marking is. Your lower parts kit has more impact on function than the lower itself.

    For uppers, pick a specific one out you like based on features, weight, etc and then look for reviews on that specific one or ask questions about it. If you just want to ask for quality uppers on a forum, you're going to get recommendations that break your $800 price point. To fit in to your price range you're going to end up with a medium quality rifle. AR's are a hobby where if you go for quality you need to expect to pay up for it.

    You really are building an AR cause you expect CQC?

    You'll need your complete upper, stripped lower, lower parts kit, stock / buffer tube / buffer spring, and one of those wrenches for the castle nut. I think that's it other than optics. There are instructions on youtube on how to put it all together. Adding the LPK to the lower is the hardest part.

    edit: Oh you'll also either need a Bullet Button, or you'll need to go featureless when selecting all your parts. See the AW guide for details.
    Last edited by stix213; 05-05-2011, 4:38 PM.

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    • #3
      furfam4
      Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 229

      Originally posted by stix213

      You really are building an AR cause you expect CQC?


      No. Hope I never encounter it but if I do in SHTF I want it added to the compliment


      You'll need your complete upper, stripped lower, lower parts kit, stock / buffer tube / buffer spring, and one of those wrenches for the castle nut. I think that's it other than optics. There are instructions on youtube on how to put it all together. Adding the LPK to the lower is the hardest part.

      edit: Oh you'll also either need a Bullet Button, or you'll need to go featureless when selecting all your parts. See the AW guide for details.
      Ok thanks. Any recommendation of lower parts kit? Also, if you buy online you gotta pay transfer fee too right, is that only for the lower?
      Last edited by furfam4; 05-05-2011, 4:47 PM.

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      • #4
        apbrian112
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 3279

        Originally posted by furfam4
        Ok thanks. Any recommendation of lower parts kit? Also, if you buy online you gotta pay transfer fee too right, is that only for the lower?
        only for the lower... the lower will be the only part that needs to be shipped to an FFL so that it can be dros'd. all other parts are just that, parts; and these can be shipped directly to you.
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        • #5
          killshot44
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          • Nov 2009
          • 4072

          First guy that links "the chart" for him gets banned......

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          • #6
            dieselpower
            Banned
            • Jan 2009
            • 11471

            You, like most new builders, are getting yourself too caught up in the politics of the build and not focusing on the build. Stop screwing around.

            Stop caring what people write and start buying whats available to you.

            My buddy was the same way. LAST YEAR before Christmas he said he was going to start looking into building an AR. Last Wednesday I got fed up with him talking and researching and took him to a gun shop to buy the lower.

            It gets out of jail on Saturday. He will buy a LPK and BB when he picks it up. He went with a higher priced Lower. He could have just bought the cheapest one. Its not that big a deal. He liked the Sun Devil for the adjustment screw for the upper attachment point.

            Now, you get your freaking lazy butt to a gun shop or three & find out who has lowers in stock and BUY ONE! Once you do that then start looking for the rest of the firearm.

            just remember DROS is $25 and you are going to pay tax.
            Last edited by dieselpower; 05-05-2011, 5:13 PM.

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            • #7
              apbrian112
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 3279

              i think the OP's in huntington beach... if this is correct you're only a stones throw from one of the best shops in socal (imo). Riflegear is a member/vendor on here and they'll be able to get you started.
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              • #8
                Lead Waster
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Sep 2010
                • 16650

                Do this (if you buy online, get it all at once to save on shipping)

                Buy a lower, this is the thing that needs paperwork. Any one will do, they just hold all the other stuff together. $100 + DROS (depends, but at least $25 can be up to $50+ if you are transferring from somewhere else)

                Buy a lower parts kit. Cheapest I've seen is DPMS for $58 (midway usa).
                Buy a bullet button to replace the mag release in your lpk. $20
                Buy a stock $50 for the simplest, goes up to $infinity

                Buy a complete upper. MidwayUSA has a lot as do many many many other places. Cost $400 to infinity depending on what you want. Say $500 is a decent price.

                Buy one or more magazines $10-$30 depending on brand, coolness, etc. 10 rounds only please!

                Sights/sites do you want optics or iron sights...did you BUY AN UPPER THAT INCLUDED SIGHTS? Sights are expensive for a set, expect at least $100. For good ones about $200+ but then ... why not buy optics then?

                I think that's it. Then download some online instructions for assembling the lower with the lpk etc.

                Buiy some ammo, reloading press, dies, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc ....

                Then SUPER DUPER SIMPLE: Buy a lower, then buy a "kit" which has the assmbled upper, stock, lpk, etc, etc AND a bullet button (they tend not to come with them). Midway USA, JT Distributing, Delton, etc, etc, etc has kits starting around $500 (that's for the whole kit minus lower!). Are they as "good" as the piecemeal method? Well...sure, why not? You're not going to war are you?
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                • #9
                  r6raff
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 508

                  Upper for 575.00 http://www.riflegear.com/p-46-stag-a...ete-upper.aspx
                  Stripped Lower 99.00 http://www.riflegear.com/p-549-spike...olor-fill.aspx
                  LPK 69.00 http://www.riflegear.com/p-448-rra-l...parts-kit.aspx
                  Adjustable Stock 89.99 http://www.riflegear.com/p-143-stag-...-assembly.aspx
                  Raddlock 35.99 http://www.riflegear.com/p-470-raddl...operation.aspx

                  Thats a complete rifle that will most deffinately get the job done, with front and rear irons.

                  With Dros and Tax it will be a bit over what you are aiming for but this I think is a great build for $900 bucks. (edit) Closer to $1000, apparently I fail at basic math =\

                  Then when you are ready you can step up to the plate with the big biys and get yourself a BCM

                  Let the BCM hate begin... in 3...2...1...
                  Last edited by r6raff; 05-05-2011, 5:43 PM.
                  Hmm...

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                  • #10
                    apbrian112
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 3279

                    Originally posted by r6raff
                    Upper for 575.00 http://www.riflegear.com/p-46-stag-a...ete-upper.aspx
                    Stripped Lower 99.00 http://www.riflegear.com/p-549-spike...olor-fill.aspx
                    LPK 69.00 http://www.riflegear.com/p-448-rra-l...parts-kit.aspx
                    Adjustable Stock 89.99 http://www.riflegear.com/p-143-stag-...-assembly.aspx
                    Raddlock 35.99 http://www.riflegear.com/p-470-raddl...operation.aspx

                    Thats a complete rifle that will most deffinately get the job done, with front and rear irons.

                    With Dros and Tax it will be a bit over what you are aiming for but this I think is a great build for 900 bucks.

                    Then when you are ready you can step up to the plate with the big biys and get yourself a BCM

                    Let the BCM hate begin... in 3...2...1...
                    no BCM hate here but unless i'm mistaken, your math is a little off and it'd be closer to $1k after dros and tax which is quite a bit more (25%) than what his stated budget was. Funny how that works huh (with ALL projects, not just firearms)
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                    • #11
                      r6raff
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 508

                      Originally posted by apbrian112
                      no BCM hate here but unless i'm mistaken, your math is a little off and it'd be closer to $1k after dros and tax which is quite a bit more (25%) than what his stated budget was. Funny how that works huh (with ALL projects, not just firearms)
                      You sir are correct, Probably could go a little cheaper on the upper but I wouldn't.

                      OP- Don't worry about optics at this point, get good with the Irons then in a few weeks or so buy some glass. Otherwise, you will have to go real cheap to meet your price expectations.
                      Hmm...

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                      • #12
                        furfam4
                        Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 229

                        Originally posted by apbrian112
                        i think the OP's in huntington beach... if this is correct you're only a stones throw from one of the best shops in socal (imo). Riflegear is a member/vendor on here and they'll be able to get you started.
                        I am yes, do tell? I've only been to Turner's in FV and Fieldtime (like but expensive) in Westminster bought my 1911 there. Where you talking about.

                        ***Edit- Riflegear...FV...will pay them a visit tomorrow.

                        Diesel- I just went to turner's today and didn't see any lowers? Tell me where to go, and I'm there, are you kidding? Don't threaten me with a good time!

                        Lead waster good stuff and I will be researching reloading. Taking a class at Fieldtime on the 14th.

                        r6raff- haven't checked those links yet but will. thanks

                        ***Edit- like those links, like them alot.

                        Everyone- thanks for your time!
                        Last edited by furfam4; 05-05-2011, 5:58 PM.

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                        • #13
                          glockwise2000
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                          • Sep 2008
                          • 2520

                          First, you need to buy a stripped lower. Then worry about the next part. You just need to put your one foot forward.

                          Lowers are basically and almost the same. It just varies from markings that people prefers. Just get in a gunshop and choose.
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                          • #14
                            gemini1
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                            • Nov 2008
                            • 2229

                            For the budget you've set, get a Delton kit, its complete minus the lower receiver. As for quality? some says its junk but those who uses it says otherwise.

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                            • #15
                              dieselpower
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 11471

                              Originally posted by furfam4
                              I am yes, do tell? I've only been to Turner's in FV and Fieldtime (like but expensive) in Westminster bought my 1911 there. Where you talking about.

                              Diesel- I just went to turner's today and didn't see any lowers? Tell me where to go, and I'm there, are you kidding? Don't threaten me with a good time!

                              Lead waster good stuff and I will be researching reloading. Taking a class at Fieldtime on the 14th.

                              r6raff- haven't checked those links yet but will. thanks

                              Everyone- thanks for your time!
                              riflegear...go there tomorrow, or staturday... click me

                              bring your check book, ID and expect to waste about 2 hours...1 hour looking, 45 minutes talking 15 minutes filling out an ATF form 4473.

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