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  • sierra_mike
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 30

    Titanium Nitride BCG

    Does anyone have any reviews about this type of coating on the BCG??? What would be the benefits/downfall of it?

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    pyro3k2
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 2649

    unless you are a high volume shooter (like 1k rounds per every 2 weeks) it is not needed. If you need to get something thats not standard then a chrome BCG is more than enough for 99% of shooters.
    But I being poor, have only my dreams. I have spread my dreams under your feet. Tread softely, because you tread on my dreams.

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    • #3
      Iggy
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 1120

      Ooo, shiny.

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      • #4
        sierra_mike
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 30

        yea I was just browsing and came across it and wondered what was so great about it besides it being shiny lol

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        • #5
          Mr.Caketown
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2011
          • 7362

          Originally posted by pyro3k2
          unless you are a high volume shooter (like 1k rounds per every 2 weeks) it is not needed. If you need to get something thats not standard then a chrome BCG is more than enough for 99% of shooters.
          the problem with chrome is that you have a harder metal moving against a softer metal causing premature wear. Stoner tried the Chrome BCG back in the 60s and it didnt work out. Chrome BCGs are for people who dont like to clean or people who want the bling look
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          3) Saltworks M5 upper/lower set

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          • #6
            HK35
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 738

            Ti nitride reduces friction and is used on suspension components to provide smoother travel. Not sure how much perfomace enhancement it'll provide with a metal-metal contract. Kashima (molybdinum) coating will probably work better than Ti Nitride for BCG application.
            Last edited by HK35; 05-04-2011, 5:01 PM.

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            • #7
              VictorFranko
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2010
              • 13737

              TiN has been used in the cutting tool industry for years. Reduces wear on the cutting edges and is supposed to reduce heat build up, making chip removal from the cutting surface easier.
              I suppose it could be of some benefit on a bolt carrier, like running longer dry maybe.

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              • #8
                Iggy
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 1120

                Originally posted by BrianDavis
                the problem with chrome is that you have a harder metal moving against a softer metal causing premature wear. Stoner tried the Chrome BCG back in the 60s and it didnt work out. Chrome BCGs are for people who dont like to clean or people who want the bling look
                What are normal BCG's made out of? Aren't they made out of steel? Because steel is harder than aluminum.

                I don't think softer metal on harder metal contact is a problem with proper lubrication. On the other hand I don't know anything.

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                • #9
                  21SF
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 3491

                  Originally posted by Iggy
                  What are normal BCG's made out of? Aren't they made out of steel? Because steel is harder than aluminum.

                  I don't think softer metal on harder metal contact is a problem with proper lubrication. On the other hand I don't know anything.
                  Lol, that what i was thinking.

                  I have a NIckle Boron and it runs like a beast lube or no lube, like lifer in prison hahaha.
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                  • #10
                    pyro3k2
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 2649

                    Originally posted by BrianDavis
                    the problem with chrome is that you have a harder metal moving against a softer metal causing premature wear. Stoner tried the Chrome BCG back in the 60s and it didnt work out. Chrome BCGs are for people who dont like to clean or people who want the bling look
                    The Chrome was mentioned just for the bling factor.
                    But I being poor, have only my dreams. I have spread my dreams under your feet. Tread softely, because you tread on my dreams.

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                    • #11
                      RONIN.
                      Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 486

                      Originally posted by Iggy
                      What are normal BCG's made out of? Aren't they made out of steel? Because steel is harder than aluminum.

                      I don't think softer metal on harder metal contact is a problem with proper lubrication. On the other hand I don't know anything.
                      you sir are 100% correct.. i put 500rds-1000rds per class.. and my standard bcg works just fine.. i really see no reason to coat the bcg with anything.. just lube.. there are many others who send many 1000rds down range at the two way range.. and use a standard bcg.. just keep it lubed..

                      now who knows will it be smoothing running with a titanium nitrided bcg. who knows i haven't played with one.. but my take on it is this.. it is not needed if you keep your weapon lubed..

                      ronin.

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                      • #12
                        Mr.Caketown
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 7362

                        Originally posted by Iggy
                        What are normal BCG's made out of? Aren't they made out of steel? Because steel is harder than aluminum.

                        I don't think softer metal on harder metal contact is a problem with proper lubrication. On the other hand I don't know anything.
                        Depends on who makes the BCG , people praise the Young and BCM chrome bcgs , but aside from what all you hear is " They are just easier to clean and cause wear sooner"

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                        • #13
                          FeuerFrei
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 7455

                          Originally posted by sierra_mike
                          Does anyone have any reviews about this type of coating on the BCG??? What would be the benefits/downfall of it?

                          http://www.dpmsinc.com/store/product...d=326&cat=1683
                          You want a review?
                          My personal opinion;

                          This material is called many things by many companies.
                          "Nickel Boron" basically the same stuff. Whatever.
                          I run Fail Zero BCGs' on my DI rifles and run them without any lube.
                          No dirt from outside of the rifle sticks to the BCG. Every lube I have tried works but also attracts dirt. My guns ran fine with regular BCG but needed to lube more often. This generated more muck inside the receiver. The "NB" coating keeps things running very smooth.
                          My high round count DI AR has run fine like this for a tad over 8000 rds now and has not show any ill effects. So far.
                          If you just run your rifle at the range then save your money.
                          My needs are to have a rifle run in a dirty dusty sand and loam covered shooting area that I frequent.
                          This rifle runs without the lube. I was told NOT to do this because it would hurt my rifle. So far so good. YMMV.
                          Do you "need" it. No.
                          Stuffing it into a "range only" rifle would be un-necessary. IMO.

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                          • #14
                            rareair
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 1898

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                            • #15
                              motorwerks
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1619

                              I want to build an AR with a Ti BCG, AR gold trigger, Leupold scope with the gold ring, and a Wood stock set so bad, in ether .308 or some exotic AR15 sized caliber.

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