M60 belt fed off list?

[furyous68]

Well.. you can't purchase. manufacture, or import after 1/1/2000 (same as high-cap mags). But, from what I've read on the lawyer forum (2-A), if you were to find one.. say in the attic of your house, (loaded ready to go w/ 11+ rounds) it's perfectly legal to have & use... since it was not purchased, manufactured, or imported. (Of course.. I'm being facetious)

Quick question though... as an LEO, isn't he exempt?

Also, if you did own an 11+ round belt of ammunition, and shot it so the links came apart... could you not then re-load it past 10 rounds? That sucks!

[Cokebottle]

How would it be a felony? Cops aren't restricted from having high-cap mags.. which a +10 link belt is considered right?

This part is correct.

Isn't that why LEO can have AR's without the BB and with all the evil features?

This part is not exactly correct.

A cop can't just go to Riflegear and get a featured build without a BB. It either has to be for department use, or, by pulling a LOT of strings through the department, get it registered with the DOJ as a RAW.

And there is some question as to whether that registration remains valid after his retirement.


But yes, cops are exempt from the high-cap mag laws, though they are not exempt from the prohibition on importation... they still have to buy them from an in-state source (FFL with high-cap permit, another cop, etc...)

[Cokebottle]

Not sure what you mean what if he found them .
You can still legally purchase, or find them or what ever, you just can't put more than 10 of them together.
Now like I said if you had 11 or more of them together before 1/1/2000 you can add on to them to untill your fingers bleed and shoot it over and over as long as it never gets smaller than 11rnds.

OP is a cop.

He can have many of the cool toys that we can't.

[George W]

Links are links you can buy them by the thousands in calif.
You don't have to find them you can still buy them. They are not a prohibited item in Calif.
The problem is once you start sticking them together (after 1/1/2000) once you put together with over 10 bullets holding them together your in violation of the law because you now are manufacturing a hicap magazine.

If you owned a belt of 308 ammo on M13 (M60) links that was 100 rnds back in Dec. of 1999 you have a pre ban hi cap mag. by definition which is legal to own in Calif. Then lets say you go to the range and shoot 89 rnds of it on 1/1/2000 and then stopped shooting you would still have a pre ban Hi-cap mag by definition and you could legally reload it to 100-200-300 rnds or untill your broke buying .308 ammo just like you could if you owned a 20 rnd AR mag.
But should you shoot 90 or more rounds of it you no longer have a hi-cap pre ban magazine by definition.

As to the LEO ? I will defer to others on that.
GW

[furyous68]

Thanks Cokebottle... I think you answered my question.

[duc748bip]

lucky I save all the link from a surplus ammo purchase. almost toss them in the trash when i moved. Now just need to find a semi M60 or need to find 20k first.

[goodlookin1]

Even if it illegal for a cop to buy and keep, LEO are a de-facto "privileged class" and rarely/never bust their own.

- Some departments will issue "Assault Weapons" registered to them.

- Some departments will issue "Assault Weapons" registered to them so long as they remain full-time LEO

- Some departments wont issue directly to LEO

In any case, unless you come across the rare "You're not exempt" type LEO, they will look the other way on your illegal AW. All you have to say is, "I'm an Law Enforcement Officer. Nothing to see here folks", then show them your badge and they move right along.

[rromeo]

lucky I save all the link from a surplus ammo purchase. almost toss them in the trash when i moved. Now just need to find a semi M60 or need to find 20k first.

You may freely purchase, sell, give, manufacture, etc. as many links as you choose. You may not link up more than 10 rounds of ammunition if you did not possess more than 10 rounds of linked ammunition in California prior to January of 2000.

[X-NewYawker]

The pics are "pre-computer" but had one of these semi-auto M-60s before the ban back in 1989. Heavy. Cool. Stupid. We used it mostly for family "Hey look I'm Rambo" photo Ops. My Belgian FAL kicked its *** as a useful gun, so it disappeared.

[cannon]

Thats the thing about our hobby. You are only limited by your imagination and wallet. OP get your rifle and have a blast!

[Cokebottle]

Even if it illegal for a cop to buy and keep, LEO are a de-facto "privileged class" and rarely/never bust their own.

- Some departments will issue "Assault Weapons" registered to them.

- Some departments will issue "Assault Weapons" registered to them so long as they remain full-time LEO

- Some departments wont issue directly to LEO

In any case, unless you come across the rare "You're not exempt" type LEO, they will look the other way on your illegal AW. All you have to say is, "I'm an Law Enforcement Officer. Nothing to see here folks", then show them your badge and they move right along.

There is a big difference between personal ownership and departmental issue.

[ke6guj]

But yes, cops are exempt from the high-cap mag laws, though they are not exempt from the prohibition on importation... they still have to buy them from an in-state source (FFL with high-cap permit, another cop, etc...)

nope, they can import them, and/or manufacture their own:

12020(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:
(20) The sale to, lending to, transfer to, purchase by, receipt of, or importation into this state of, a large capacity magazine by a sworn peace officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of his or her duties.
(30)(B) The manufacture of a large-capacity magazine for use by a sworn peace officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of his or her duties.

[timdps]

Here is one that sold relatively recently:

http://www.gunsamerica.com/942260645/Guns/Rifles/Military-Misc-Rifles-US/Sniper-Variants/Springfield_Armory_SA_1_Belt_Fed_Semi_Auto_M6.htm

[m35a2]

So, anyone know of any M60D sa versions in private hands here in Ca?

[ke6guj]

The only viable model that would fly here in Calif. would be the M60 D.
It was the door gun version used in the Hueys. It was fitted with a set of spade grips.

you don't have to go with spade grips, you could run a fingrip on it to remove the PG "feature".

You would then just have to sleeve the flash hider.

yup