Folding stock FAL

[dfletcher]

Just an FYI - there's a neat new DSA FAL @ City Arms - folding stock with para scope mount, 13" bbl with permanent fix FH bringing it to 16.25". Short gas system. Meets the 30" OAL when folded and is rock solid.

It looks neat as hell - if you had your picture taken with it no one would believe you were in CA. I'm tempted to pick up a para kit for my own.

[M. Sage]

How much are they asking for it, I wonder?

I still haven't been in there since the $800 used AKM...

[dfletcher]

There isn't a price on it yet, but the info I got was $1,800.00 to $2,000.00. I paid about $1,400.00 for my carbine - no scope cover, later bought nice wood & some odds & ends. I think mine's "purtier" but the folder & FH on theirs is just about as business like as can be.

[SemiAutoSam]

The only problem with this item is your options are severely limited you can only run with a fixed mag configuration as it has a permanent evil feature the flash hider.

I paid 2500.00 for a real FN 50.63 about 4 months ago.

Just an FYI - there's a neat new DSA FAL @ City Arms - folding stock with para scope mount, 13" bbl with permanent fix FH bringing it to 16.25". Short gas system. Meets the 30" OAL when folded and is rock solid.

It looks neat as hell - if you had your picture taken with it no one would believe you were in CA. I'm tempted to pick up a para kit for my own.

[dfletcher]

Agreed.

Just as there's an MMG and BBs for some guns, too bad someone can't come up with a liner that eliminates the FH aspect. Am I wrong in assuming that an FH with a liner that eliminates the cuts through the side is no longer an FH?

[SemiAutoSam]

You could modify the FH by welding the slots up. but if your paying that kind of green for it it should be legal as it is.

You could always get one of these.

Note for 5K this guy does not even have the correct Bipod on the rifle.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=77635152

Agreed.

Just as there's an MMG and BBs for some guns, too bad someone can't come up with a liner that eliminates the FH aspect. Am I wrong in assuming that an FH with a liner that eliminates the cuts through the side is no longer an FH?

[dfletcher]

Too bad DSA doesn't list the thing as a "muzzle brake" - what's in a name, right?

[M. Sage]

This must be it. The SA58 Para Elite Compact:

http://www.dsarms.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SA58ELITECAL

Wow... I thought M1As were overpriced until I saw DSA's prices.

[thedrickel]

The only problem with this item is your options are severely limited you can only run with a fixed mag configuration as it has a permanent evil feature the flash hider.

What difference does it make if it has a flash hider or muzzle brake, it wouldn't make any sense to make a FAL para into a featureless build. You can spend half as much on a featureless FAL. DSA guns are nice, but at a 80% premium over how much it costs me to build one? No thanks, I will take a type 1 for 350

You can go featureless easy enough with a filled thumbhole or the MMG soon enough. FAL para requires a bullet button tho. I will make one for anybody that wants one for their para.

[C.G.]

Just an FYI - there's a neat new DSA FAL @ City Arms - folding stock with para scope mount, 13" bbl with permanent fix FH bringing it to 16.25". Short gas system. Meets the 30" OAL when folded and is rock solid.

It looks neat as hell - if you had your picture taken with it no one would believe you were in CA. I'm tempted to pick up a para kit for my own.

Something is wrong here. DSAs website lists this as 27.25" with the stock folded, which I certainly believe.
This must have a non-folding stock, longer barrel or muzzle device than you stated.

[M. Sage]

They could have attached an extender to the back of the rifle, much like the side-folding off-list AKs.

[SemiAutoSam]

Well it makes a difference as if its a featureless build I can use my 20-30 round mags in it. With a permanent mounted flash hider I cannot use those 20-30 round mags.

I can have a FN rifle setup to swap back and forth using a removable FH. with the addition of a standard butt stocked lower.

What difference does it make if it has a flash hider or muzzle brake, it wouldn't make any sense to make a FAL para into a featureless build. You can spend half as much on a featureless FAL. DSA guns are nice, but at a 80% premium over how much it costs me to build one? No thanks, I will take a type 1 for 350

[M. Sage]

That's his point: folding stock = evil feature. You'd have to fix the stock, even though you paid about three hundred bucks for it.

[SemiAutoSam]

The lower comes off the upper. Its not a big deal to purchase another standard stock lower. This stock lets you use 20 round mags. But if you have a perm flash hider installed your SOL.




Once the 2nd lower is attached it would look something like this.

That's his point: folding stock = evil feature. You'd have to fix the stock, even though you paid about three hundred bucks for it.

[dfletcher]

The stock definitely folded - did it myself this afternoon. I'll amend my original post to say I didn't measure the thing, but was told by the crew it is CA OK when folded. I've always found them to be sticklers for the law.

I looked primarily at the right side of the gun, the DSA para posted earlier in the thread looks a little different in the folding area. The lower looked like this: http://www.dsarms.com/prodinfo.asp?number=P120USSETN Don't know if this earns a few extra inches. I was told the gun took about 8 months to get & was a special order. But other than the forward grip & the sight, cheekrest - have to say it does indeed look like the Para Elite posted.