White Oak vs. BCM

[Eargasm]

I'm looking at purchasing a 20" inch upper.

What are your opinions on the White Oak Armament versus the BCM 20" upper?

I'm looking for something that I can use at approx 500 yards for target/precision practice. Is one better than the other?

Thanks.

[Brown Rock]

Both look to have good specs. If you decide on the BCM, you might be waiting a long time for it. Those have been out of stock for awhile now. I looked into getting one in January, but they were out of them. Another thing about the BCM upper is they don't include the BCG, or charging handle.

[tm_jones123]

To my understanding (so take it as such) BCM is built more battlefield while WO is more competition based.

[RawImpact]

for precision/target go WOA

[killshot44]

Blah, BCM bought their hammer-forged barrels from Sabre Defence and now they get them elsewhere source them from Daniel Defense,
or so I'm told . And they are all chrome lined.

White Oak uses stainless barrels that are cut or button-rifled, stress-relieved and hand-lapped. You can request a maker (Krieger, Broughton, Hart etc). Even their Douglas and Wilson barrels are great. They sell barrel/bolt combos or complete Uppers.

You can buy what the Service Rifle/Match Rifle/High Power match winners use or you can say you bought from "the chart". Up to you.

[vintagearms]

Blah, BCM bought their hammer-forged barrels from Sabre Defence and now they have to get them elsewhere.

White Oak uses barrels that are better-rifled, stress-relieved and hand-lapped. You can request a maker (Krieger, Broughton, etc). They sell barrel/bolt combos or complete Uppers.

You can buy what the Service Rifle/Match Rifle/High Power match winners use or you can say you bought from "the chart". Up to you.

BCM now gets them from DD.

To the OP, I'd look at the WO barrels for what your lookinjg for.

[a1fabweld]

Make sure you are comparing apples to apples. Stainless for stainless that is. I have a WOA SDMR barrel that is ridiculously accurate. Chrome lined & precision shooting don't mix.

[Packy14]

WOA and WOP are considered to be in a class above most builders for what they are..target uppers. BCM makes affordable mil-spec like combat uppers (they aren't actually milspec from what I've seen since I don't think they have a contract). BCM isn't even as accurate as a full DD build...so... ya... WOA.

[lumpia]

(they aren't actually milspec from what I've seen since I don't think they have a contract). BCM isn't even as accurate as a full DD build...so... ya... WOA.

What is your basis for these statements regarding BCM? Any hard data?

[phish]

which one is better for shtf or zombie hunting?

[Brown Rock]

BCM makes affordable mil-spec like combat uppers (they aren't actually milspec from what I've seen since I don't think they have a contract).

BCM ain't milspec because they don't have a military contract? I always thought milspec meant that the materials used met military specifications.

[Packy14]

they can call it milspec, but unless its actually tested to be so by an independent party, who knows what it is. There have been many documented issues with their bolt carriers and other parts not being up to par. To each his own, spend your money where you like, but if your interest is target/precision shooting, I'd personally take a WOA over a BCM 100% of the time. Something that is not actually used by the military cannot truly be milspec.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milspec

http://kingspawnandgun.com/?p=180

Sorry to burst your bubble.

[Brown Rock]

they can call it milspec, but unless its actually tested to be so by an independent party, who knows what it is. There have been many documented issues with their bolt carriers and other parts not being up to par. To each his own, spend your money where you like, but if your interest is target/precision shooting, I'd personally take a WOA over a BCM 100% of the time. Something that is not actually used by the military cannot truly be milspec.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milspec

http://kingspawnandgun.com/?p=180

Sorry to burst your bubble.

Interesting. Looks like I got my lesson of the day.

[Packy14]

no worries, BCM is fine for what it is, and better than many of the other commercial builders. I like their gunfighter charging handle too. I'd probably buy a BCM upper one over a true "milspec" builder's uppers like Colt. But..going back to the OP's question, the WOA or WOP uppers are probably more cut out for what he wants. I know I want a WOA if I follow through with my ideas to shoot highpower.

[MrPlink]

BCM makes affordable mil-spec like combat uppers (they aren't actually milspec from what I've seen since I don't think they have a contract).

milspec isnt based on contracts

and your first link actually contradicts your next one

taken right from your wiki link

" Standardization is beneficial in achieving interoperability, ensuring products meet certain requirements, commonality, reliability, total cost of ownership, compatibility with logistics systems, and similar defense-related objectives .
Defense standards are also used by other non-defense government organizations, technical organizations, and industry."

Im not sure where you gathered from that that they meant to say "only colt, fn, KAC, LMT, etc etc are milspec"