Upper registration

[951bulldog]

Can somebody point me to the section of the penal code that explains registration of firearms? What I need is something that explains that lowers have a serial # and have to be registered while uppers do not have serials and do not have to be registered, or something along those lines. Thanks fellas.

[Crowesnest]

Only lowers must be registered.

[RobT2K]

There's not going to be a section telling you what you don't have to do. The PC is huge already, imagine if it also included what you don't have to do.
The section you want will probably just say that the firearm needs to be registered by serial number, they don't address that some firearms are sold in pieces.

[thetaxman]

And don't forget some firearms are actually the upper piece (Sig 556).

[951bulldog]

I realize it isn't going to tell me what I don't have to do, but I need something that proves I don't have to register an upper. What is the PC section talks about firearm registration?

[MrPlink]

I hate to break it to you, but unless you have a RAW, your lower isn't registered either

[951bulldog]

I hate to break it to you, but unless you have a RAW, your lower isn't registered either

The rifle I'm talking about isn't an AW, it is an AR w/ a BB. However, long story short, I have a police report where the cop says she found a bunch of guns, all registered. She also says she found 2 guns that weren't registered, one is a lower, which is registered just like the rest of my guns, and an upper, which I am trying to find something to show this idiot that says it doesn't need to be registered because an upper is considered parts and doesn't have a serial #.

Sooo, in trying to find this I found something on the CA DOJ site that says CA has no registration requirement except for AW and handgun importers. So are all of my guns registered w/ the state or not? I always thought they were. What do the police look at when they find a gun and need to see who the owner is?

[rareair]

Only pistols are actually registered with DOJ. CA DOJ doesn't keep records of long gun ownership.

Not too sure about RAW weapons as I don't have any.

[five.five-six]

I had a LEO ask me if my AR was registered, while out shooting the other day, explaining it to him seemed like a daunting task, so I simply told him that "everything is legal"

[thetaxman]

The rifle I'm talking about isn't an AW, it is an AR w/ a BB. However, long story short, I have a police report where the cop says she found a bunch of guns, all registered. She also says she found 2 guns that weren't registered, one is a lower, which is registered just like the rest of my guns, and an upper, which I am trying to find something to show this idiot that says it doesn't need to be registered because an upper is considered parts and doesn't have a serial #.

Sooo, in trying to find this I found something on the CA DOJ site that says CA has no registration requirement except for AW and handgun importers. So are all of my guns registered w/ the state or not? I always thought they were. What do the police look at when they find a gun and need to see who the owner is?

Where did this happen? If in CA then may be one for the CGF to look at.

[951bulldog]

So long guns are not registered at all? How do cops look to see who owns a long gun? Or is there no way? I know this lady isn't exactly Sherlock Holmes, but I would think she could at least get that part right.

[951bulldog]

Where did this happen? If in CA then may be one for the CGF to look at.

Yes, in CA. The guns were secondary to another issue that a family member caused which brought this lovely officer to my home. She isn't charging me w/ having an unregistered gun or anything, I'm just going through her reports and highlighting all the mistakes, inaccuracies and whatnot. I'm also trying to get documentation on everything. One of those mistakes/inaccuracies is her putting in the report that she found a lower that was unregistered (which it isn't, it was all purchased properly) and an upper that is unregistered. That is why I am looking to find something that shows that an upper doesn't need to be registered.

[MrPlink]

Long arms unless RAW, are not registered. Easy as that.

[Cokebottle]

Only lowers must be registered.

Lowers MAY be voluntarily registered.
Only handguns must be registered (at the time of transfer).
California (currently) has no required registration for long guns, which would include a stripped lower.

If you have a handgun that you owned before 1991, it is most likely not registered, and it is not required to be registered. If/when you transfer it to another person, it will be registered to them.

[CSACANNONEER]

There's no law against having unregistered long guns or handguns. There are many legally owned, unregistered handguns in this state.