1st rifle reccomendations

[kingsfan8888]

-I want something that is functional for hunting and for taking to the range.
-Big Game. Deer, Moose, and Bear.
-Like it to be in all black.
-Not looking like I am going to rob a convienence store.
-What calibres are best for big game.


I know nothing about rifles so be nice.

[SemiAutoSam]

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[xenophobe]

Winchester Black Shadow or Remington SPS...

[rksimple]

Remmy SPS or Savage in 308 or 30/06.

[kingsfan8888]

Is savage a cheap quality gun. I am a quick learner and don't want toget something underpowered or boring. Hell I started shooting in April and just bought 2 Desert Eagle Mark XIX .50 AE.

[jaymz]

Savage 110. It's not a "cheap" rifle, it's an "inexpensive" rifle. I'd never recommend a cheap rifle to anyone.

[glockman19]

YES
-Big Game. Deer, Moose, and Bear.
YES
-Like it to be in all black.
YES
-Not looking like I am going to rob a convienence store.
YES
-What calibres are best for big game.
MANY CALIBERS TO CHOOSE FROM
I would recommend .30-06, or 7mm-08
Other Calibers include:
17 Remington Fireball
6.8 Rem SPC
223 Remington
243 Win
270 Win
270 WSM
7mm-08 Remington
7mm Rem Mag
30-06
308 Win
300 WSM
300 Win Mag
300 Rem Ultra Mag

[Fjold]

What Savage gets you is a more inexpensive accurate gun.

I have Remington, Winchester, Savage and Ruger bolt guns, the Savages get shot the most. If Moose and Bear are on the list I would say the minimum cartridge would be the 30.06. Be aware that when you are talking about larger bullets and more powerful cartridges recoil is a factor. It does take awhile to get used to the recoil from a bolt action 30.06. Start with 150 grain bullet loads and work up slowly. You will complain about the recoil from this gun when you first start using it.

If you were just talkng about CA deer, bear, etc. hunting I would recommend a 7mm-08 or 308 up to about a 25.06 or 270 to learn on (and get used to recoil) but throwing animals like Moose into the equation calls for bigger bullets and more power.

[viras]

I think, dollar for dollar, a Saiga .308 is the most kick-*** semi-automatic rifle you can get. Trick it out with a nice scope and bipod, and you're good to go.

It's a great range gun, but I've never used it for hunting, so I couldn't honestly answer.

It's accurate in the right hands up to 100-150 yards, give or take. I'm trying to get good with it up to 300 yards, but it's tough.

Plus it's nice to have 7 more in the clip, just in case you're hunting zombie moose. You gotta watch out for those zombie moose. Those suckers bite.

[rkt88edmo]

It is your first rifle, but how much shooting have you done? If you haven't done much, get a .22lr. Cost to practice is measured in pennies per shot instead of 50 cents to $2 depending on the rifle and ammo you shoot.

[kingsfan8888]

I have gotten pretty good with my hand guns and shotguns. I am a dead-eye when it comes to shooting clays.

To answer the re-coil question I know it is a different gun but, the recoil from a Desert Eagle .50 AE did not really throw my aim off. First time out I put 32 out of 40 in the belly of the target we were using at 40 yards.

[Fjold]

I have gotten pretty good with my hand guns and shotguns. I am a dead-eye when it comes to shooting clays.

To answer the re-coil question I know it is a different gun but, the recoil from a Desert Eagle .50 AE did not really throw my aim off. First time out I put 32 out of 40 in the belly of the target we were using at 40 yards.

Rifle recoil and handgun recoil are two different animals. I grew up on 300 grain 44 mag handgun loads but a 7 mag rifle was impossible for me to shoot well for years. With practice you learn how to deal with and compensate for recoil and work around it.

Shotgun recoil is also different, you are standing and moving and that lets your body compensate and adjust subconsciously to the recoil.

Shooting a rifle off of a bench is much, much different. I would let you try my 7 Lb, 300 Mag which has a similar recoil level as the 12 gauge that you are shooting but I guaranty that shooting off the bench for the first time you would think that it had two or three times as much.

[FatKatMatt]

Remington 700 SPS or Savage 110 in .30-06
If you're on a budget, try and get one of those package guns with a scope and sling, replace them both later when the funds permit.

[slick_711]

It is your first rifle, but how much shooting have you done? If you haven't done much, get a .22lr. Cost to practice is measured in pennies per shot instead of 50 cents to $2 depending on the rifle and ammo you shoot.

Thats the best advice in the whole thread.

What kind've rifle experience do you have? If it's really your first rifle, get a .22LR (or even a .17HMR, .223 at the most). Anything else is *far too expensive* to use for "target practice" and learning to be a rifleman. You can buy a decent large caliber bolt action later, and put the skills you get from the .22LR to use with it in the field. Much more effective than paying for all the .30-06, .300WM, or .300WSM ammo for your range time.

Plus you'll need a .22LR eventually anyway. It'll be the ideal rifle to teach friends/family to shoot with (and you better be introducing others to the sport ) and it's also a great rifle for small game/varmints/target practice.

[kingsfan8888]

Thats the best advice in the whole thread.

What kind've rifle experience do you have? If it's really your first rifle, get a .22LR (or even a .17HMR, .223 at the most). Anything else is *far too expensive* to use for "target practice" and learning to be a rifleman. You can buy a decent large caliber bolt action later, and put the skills you get from the .22LR to use with it in the field. Much more effective than paying for all the .30-06, .300WM, or .300WSM ammo for your range time.

Plus you'll need a .22LR eventually anyway. It'll be the ideal rifle to teach friends/family to shoot with (and you better be introducing others to the sport ) and it's also a great rifle for small game/varmints/target practice.

I've got 3 of my buddies into shooting within three months. They don't have the funds I do yet as they are still in college. Both of them bought .45's. One a Springfield Tactical and the other a HK. I kind of wish they would buy more guns as I always get really nervous when they are shooting my desert eagle. I don't want anybody scratching the nickel. I got so paranoid I bought a basic black one today. I'll let them shoot that while the bling will be for me.

Since there is no limit on the number of long guns you can purcgase at a time I am going to take your guys advice in getting a 22 LR. I still want to geta money gun for hunting as I will be going with my girlfreinds uncle on a 2 week hunting trip in Kodiak Alaska next year. In the time leading up I want to get semi-competant with a rifle. I am also going to pick-up a Ruger Alaskan for my back-up firearm just incase Yogi gets a little too close.

P.S. I tend to do everything in excess. So going all out is normal, weird, behavior for me. My buddies keep teasing me telling me I need to get the "Shooter" rifle. Keep the good advice coming as I really do appreciate it. What are the functionality for AR-15's and AR-10's?